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Ο αντιπαλος είναι απο τους regular στο heads up 2/4 και αρα μαλλον αρκετά καλος. Μεχρι τωρα παιζουμε επιθετικα preflop με πολλα raise και reraise αλλά παντα κάποιος κανει fold Τι κανουμε εδώ όταν μπαινει all-in; Τι range έχει; Texas Hold'em $4-$8 NL (real money), hand #P4-65342296-61 Table Remich, 13 Apr 2008 4:33 PM ET Seat 8: UllaGull ($463.00 in chips) Seat 9: holdem_gr :Jh :Jd ($753.60 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS holdem_gr posts blind ($2), UllaGull posts blind ($4). PRE-FLOP holdem_gr bets $12, UllaGull bets $45, holdem_gr bets $133, UllaGull bets $414 and is all-in

vergitsis έγραψε: Αυτο είναι το μόνο που δεν συμφωνώ,δεν υποστηρίζω την θεωρία αυτή,κάθε χέρι είναι ένα νέο χέρι και θεωρητικά έχει τις ίδιες πιθανότητες να πάρει ξανά ΑΑ!! [/quote:3trv4z6m] THEORIA PITHANOTITWN 1. Einai ligotero pithano na exei AA giati emeis kratame A8o SWSTON 2. Einai ligotero pithano na exei AA giati eixe AA sto prohgoumeno xeri METEXETASTEOS

Yparxoun dyo eidwn "paiksimata" sto poker optimal play kai exploitive play Paizeis optimal (an mporeis hehe) apenanti se enan panisxyro antipalo kai exploitive apenanti se kapoion pou den paizei optimally Kapoies fores to exploitive paiksimo einai "lathos" afou den einai optimal, alla einai to idaniko paiksimo gia na apokomiseis to megisto kerdos apo ena antipalo pou den paizei optimally Px an se kapoio river to optimal play einai na bloffareis 20%, ana paizeis me kapoio fish profanws tha bloffareis 0%, dhl tha kaneis ena lathos paiksimo gia na ekmetaleyteis thn adynamia tou fish na mhn kanei pote fold An o antipalos tou Teo bazei to 25% tou stack tou preflop me kapio megalo range kai meta kanei fold to megalytero meros tou range tou, tote den paizei optimally ki epomenws mporei na ginei exploited apo ena antipalo pou paei all-in me opoiodhpote fyllo - oxi A8o mono alla OTIDHPOTE. Kante ta maths osoi endiafereste An loipon o Teo blepei oti o antipalos tou mporei na ginei exploited giati kanei poly fold tote paizontas lathos ton ekmetaleyetai kanontas thn kalyterh dynath kinhsh Profanws otan kanoume analysh oi apeskw, xwris reads tha prospathisoume na analysoume to optimal paiksimo. Epishs thx se osous symmetexoun energa sth syzhthsh, xwris fovo kai pathos

Antonis έγραψε: De symfwnw. Opoios apofevgei thn kritikh kai thn analysh (kaloproaireth panta) tou paixnidiou tou den prokeitai na ginei pote kalyteros. O monos logos proswpika pou spatalaw ton POLYTIMOTATO!! xrono mou gia na postarw, den einai gia na meiwsw kapoious pou oute kan gnwrizw proswpika.

Kat'arxhn thx pou apanthses toso grhgora kai analytika T.A έγραψε: An eixes tetoio read exei kalws. Alla de nomizw oti yparxei paikths pou einai ligo sxetikos kai tha kanei toso tight call, eidika otan exei aggro image kai kserei oti tha ton paizoun me pio wide ranges An htan pio deep stacks tote to paiksimo sou einai OKish alla edw kai pali den pistevw oti enas paikths sxetika kalos toulaxisto tha xei tetoio range pou tha valei mesa to 25% tou stack tou preflop kai tha dwsei 40% folding equity stous antipalous tou. Gia ton pio poly kosmo 25% shmainei pot committed synithws ektos an exeis kapoio super tight passive image Ayto den to katalaba (?) Elpizw oti den ennoeis ayto pou katalaba

Teo den yparxei logos gia parexighseis kai elpizw na postareis gia strategy sta ellhnika forum - egw den prospathw na meiwsw kanena alla na eimai oso pio antikeimenikos mporw. Dystyxws diabasa lathos to post tou Zwgrafou dhl diabasa mono to sygkekrimeno hand kai nomiza oti to egrapse eirwnika. H proswpikh mou gnwmh einai oti to squeeze pou kaneis de mporei na einai EV+ giati den exeis sxedon kanena folding equity apenanti ston reraiser kai to A8 sou einai dramtika pisw apo to range tou (akoma ki an to range tou exei kapoia stealing/tilting/junky hands). Mporei na kanw kai lathos kai eimai etoimos na peistw gia to antitheto an exhghseis kalytera to move sou (h o Zwgrafos) Epishs prepei na eisai dektikos sthn kritikh akoma ki apo paiktes pou den ektimas toso. Akoma ki an to move sou edw htan swsto, kaneis den einai alathitos. Kai fysika therma sygxarhtria gia thn epityxia sou. Eidika an ferei pio poly kosmo sto poker kaneis de mporei na mh xarei gi ayto.

crf88 έγραψε: Ti egine re paidia, to riksate oloi sthn eirwnia h mhpws to ennoeite ayto? Giati to A8 htan tragiko paiksimo. IMO

melancholy έγραψε: Hahaha kalo. Fantazomai oti tou ekleine kai to mati taytoxrona tou Italou

To raise den einai kakh idea. Pws skefthka egw: Htan to 1o hand pou paiksame alla eixa mia seira po tells: 1. Ekane buyin gia 182.68 2. Ekane limp-call sto buton, check call sto flop kai bet sto turn 3. timing Kata thn empeiria mou to read mou htan oti sto turn de pontarei kapoia flush draw alla kapoio adynato fyllo "gia na dei pou einai" Gia ayto ki egw tou deixnw adynamia me to set mou enw an eixa kapoio flush draw h tipota tha tou ekana raise kapoio % fores Dhl zhtaei apo mena plhrofories me to bet tou ki egw tou dinw lathos plhrofories. De me noiazei toso poly na dwsw free card giati den ton exw gia draw (tetoioi paiktes kanoun check-call ki oxi bet synithws me draws) To kako einai oti an pesei ontws mpastouni de tha mporesw na pontarw poly giati tha fovithei oti exw flush. Alla ayto tha symbei 10 fores stis 46.

Hello 77 Nomizw oti to rerere raise sou otan o elguiri kanei reraise kai o Solinero fold einai lathos - kane apla call Otan paei all-in perimeneis sxedon panta 77 alla epeidh oi paiktes einai kata meso oro retarded eidika sta tournoua, synithws kanoun overvalue ta hands tous opote mporei na deis kapoio QT h kapoio ilithio slowplay me AA/KK. Epishs to rerere raise sou fainetai (kai einai) fishy opote mporei na kanei kapoio play gia na sou parei to pot Opote me baria kardia kanw call alla de tha prepe na brethw se tetoia katastash me to lathos re re re raise pou ekana

Akoma kai ta xeirotera fish de bazoun toso eykola ta lefta tous mesa. Xreiazetai poly proergasia gia rketh wra synithws me apwtero skopo na sthseis to teliko hand pou tha plhrwtheis px to paraktw fainetai apaisio paiksimo alla opws eixe ekselixtei to paixnidi iksera oti tha ekane call me aplo K TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-64601459-145 played at "Suez" for USD RM from 2008-04-04 07:59 until 2008-04-04 08:00 Seat 3: joshman_7 ($299.30 in chips) Seat 9: holdem_gr ($416.90 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS joshman_7 posts blind ($1), holdem_gr posts blind ($2). PRE-FLOP joshman_7 calls $1, holdem_gr checks. FLOP :Kh :7h :8s holdem_gr bets $6, joshman_7 calls $6. TURN :9d holdem_gr bets $22, joshman_7 calls $22. RIVER :5d holdem_gr bets $386.90 and is all-in, joshman_7 calls $269.30 and is all-in. SHOWDOWN holdem_gr shows :5c :6d joshman_7 shows :5s:Ks holdem_gr wins $117.60, holdem_gr wins $597.60. SUMMARY Dealer: joshman_7 Pot: $716.20, (including rake: $1) joshman_7, loses $299.30 holdem_gr, bets $416.90, collects $715.20, net $298.30

hahaa prepei na brw ki ena paromoio hand pou o antipalos emfanisthke me 47 (to analogo tou 47) Pote den exeis teleia reads sto online. Arkei omws na eisai swstos tis pio polles fores.

Merikes fores prepei na mpeis all-in gia na MHN se pistepsoun: - daz-mac sitting in seat 1 with $182.68 - holdemgr sitting in seat 2 with $569.27 [Dealer] holdemgr posted the small blind - $1.00 daz-mac posted the big blind - $2.00 ** Dealing card to holdemgr: :Th :Ts holdemgr raised - $10.00 daz-mac called - $10.00 ** Dealing the flop: :3s :Tc :Qs daz-mac checked holdemgr bet - $13.00 daz-mac called - $13.00 ** Dealing the turn: :6h daz-mac bet - $20.00 holdemgr called - $20.00 ** Dealing the river: :5d daz-mac bet - $2.00 holdemgr went all-in - $527.27 daz-mac went all-in - $139.68 daz-mac shows: :4c :6c holdemgr shows: 10 of Hearts, 10 of Spades holdemgr wins $368.36 from the main pot Ti skeftotan loipon? Prosoxh, Prwto hand sto paixnidi prin katsei sto trapezi: re gamwto me exoun taraksei sta bad beat. Rigged onlime poker. Mou xoun meinei $182.68 sto logariasmo mou. As paiksw heads-up mhpws kai diplasiasw alloiws tha me skotwsei h gynaika mou pou ksodepsa th dosh twn epiplwn sta xartia preflop: Haha sooted connectors as kanw ena limp na doume flop. Ti? raise? Swpa re file. Exw CONNECTORS! flop: Mpa kanei bet. Siga na mhn to voithise h :Qs kai to :Ts. Sigoura exei AK h flush draw. Exw backdoor flush kai backdoor straight kai telws pantwn exw CONNECTORS san to eidwlo mou to Hellmouth. CALL! turn: Oriste twra tha plhrwsei me to AK tou. Haha ekane aplo call. Ton exw apo katw arkei na mh pesei A, K, mpastouni sto river river: teleio xarti. Tha kanw min bet gia na plhrwsei me to AK kai na ton kseftilhsw hahaha Tiiii? Raise all-in? Siga na mhn ekane toso megalo raise an eixe kati. Sigoura exase to flush tou kai epeidh edeiksa adynamia me to minbet mou prospathei na mou klepsei to pot. Nai sigoura megale! Sto Hellmouth pas na ta kaneis ayta? Call! ... Ti gkantemia einai atyh. Pali exasa apo tetoius blakes paiktes. Ante na ekshghsw sth gynaika mou twra

Dystyxws auto den htan prwtapriliatiko :(

- nicchr sitting in seat 1 with $373.82 - holdemgr sitting in seat 2 with $712.22 [Dealer] holdemgr posted the small blind - $1.00 nicchr posted the big blind - $2.00 ** Dealing card to holdemgr: :As :Jh holdemgr raised - $7.00 nicchr called - $7.00 ** Dealing the flop: :2c :4d :Js nicchr checked holdemgr bet - $11.00 nicchr raised - $22.00 holdemgr called - $22.00 ** Dealing the turn: :4s nicchr bet - $24.68 holdemgr raised - $99.00 nicchr called - $99.00 ** Dealing the river: :9s nicchr checked holdemgr went all-in - $585.22 nicchr went all-in - $247.82 nicchr shows: :5s :5c holdemgr shows: Ace of Spades, Jack of Hearts holdemgr wins $750.64 from the main pot End of game 958419044

Sto flop tha kana ligo megalytero raise alla mia xara to paikses. Para to suckout, to shmantiko einai oti ekanes kalo read kai epaikses swsta

Jimmakos έγραψε: Sry nomiza oti epaizes NL200 Nai me 100BB einai Ok apenanti s'ayton ton paikth

Jimmakos έγραψε: You run VERY hot! Ti VPIP, WSD paizeis? De m'arese to 4-bet pou ekanes me JJ preflop me deep stacks kai OOP.

PHoENiX4u901 έγραψε: exw mprosta mou 22 dollaria kai aytos 26 , kai to trapezi einai 0,15-0,25 diladi egw kanw preflop bet 1$ aytos anevazei sta 3,5$ , kanw call , sto flop pontarw 6$ (ligo pio ligo apto pot diladi) aytos raise 15$ . Diladi prin to all in eixa valei sto pot idi 10$ peripou kai me to all in esprwksa alla 12$ :whistle:[/quote:3nqb57ct] OK to standrd einai check sto flop, call sto turn kai play poker sto river Epishs to fold preflop einai tragiko. Akoma ki an exei panta AA/KK/QQ exoume odds gia set mining

De mporei kaneis na sou apanthsei an de kseroume ta stacks pou eixate Proswpika synithws kanw check s'ayto to flop me position

Pou mporoun na ftasoun ta blind wars... Texas Hold'em $4-$8 NL (real money), hand #P4-63733746-1245 Table Erlangen, 24 Mar 2008 11:04 PM ET Seat 2: gamgegga ($344.30 in chips) Seat 5: cutegirl16 ($463.30 in chips) Seat 6: annelotte89 ($383.00 in chips) Seat 8: sarome ($407.00 in chips) Seat 9: holdem_gr :Ts :6s ($440.00 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS holdem_gr posts blind ($2), gamgegga posts blind ($4). PRE-FLOP cutegirl16 folds, annelotte89 folds, sarome bets $12, holdem_gr bets $41, gamgegga folds, sarome bets $100, holdem_gr bets $397 and is all-in, sarome folds. SHOWDOWN holdem_gr wins $556 SUMMARY Dealer: sarome Pot: $556 gamgegga loses $4 cutegirl16 loses $0 annelotte89 loses $0 sarome loses $112 holdem_gr bets $440, collects $556, net $116

cip1974 έγραψε: Gia mena doulepse to: *http://www.pokertracker3.com/products/PTH/files/sqliteodbc_new.exe Isws prepei na kaneis uninstall to palio prwta. Epishs des an exeis thn pio prosfath version tou Pokertracker PS: Congrats gia to tournoua

Krima na mh milame Ispanika. Tha eixe poly gelio nakousoume ti leei Eida na kanei call sto BB me T3s. Na kanei overplay me 47s kai na kanei overlimp preflop me A5o ki ekei stamathsa. Donkaments

gsbets έγραψε: An eisai EV>0 KAI me to bankroll pou prepei sto paixnidi pou paizeis, tote de se noiazei posa tha xaseis alla posa tha kerdiseis. ducy?

cip1974 έγραψε: Nai exeis dikaio to turn call tou einai xeirotero apo to river. Otan pontarw edw sto turn to AQ einai apo ta xeirotera fylla pou mporw na exw. Alla aytos den to kserei Ki epeidh exw to image pou exw...