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Online πόκερ μόνο μεταξύ Ελλήνων; - Μέρος Β
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's liondani σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
holdemgr έγραψε: File sovara twra, psaksou. Kati den paei kala me th party sou. Sovara omws xwris asteia. H asteireyth anagkh pou exeis gia kritikh sta PANTA kai oi toso ka8etes kai se tragiko epipedo asteies apopseis sou 8a se trelanoun mia mera. Sygkrineis ena parapono-enoxlhsh me mia tragikh kai taytoxrona lyphrh istoria gia na deikseis ti? Oti eipes pali kati va8ystoxasto pou mono kai MONO esy kataferneis na vreis logikh sto na to sygkrineis me thn aplh enoxlhsh tou paidiou????? Pragmatika nomizeis oti yparxei estw enas edw mesa pou se pairnei sta sovara, otan milas me yponooumena olh thn wra h kritikareis afh psylou ta panta exontas kai epixeirhmata malista gia thn tragika paralogh logikh sou? Nomizeis oti eisai o "ksexwristos" gia kapoio logo? O "alliwtikos"? "Pantreveis" mesa sto myalo sou ta PANTA epeidh etsi apla saresei na paizeis me ta dh8en epeixhrhmata sou kai sto mono pou katalhgeis panta einai mia dh8en eirwnikh amerikanoellhnikh (Huh?klp) eirwneia! Apanthse oti 8es kanena provlima, egw apla teleiwsa me th party sou! Shkwnw ta xeria pshla! "Ftaine oi politikoi gia ola, ftaite kai eseis oloi oi alloi Ellhnes epishs gia ola! Giati? Giati to lew egw! Den exete kanena dikaiwma mono ypoxrewseis alla egw den ftaiw gia tipota oute pote 8a ftaiksw h 8a exw adiko! Egw eimai edw gia na sou 8ymizw Ellhna poios eisai, pws na skeftesai, ti prepei na kaneis, pws na to kaneis, an einai la8os h swsto, kai na sou metadidw ligo apthn ateleiwth gnwsh sta panta pou exw kai profanws... to ateleiwto amerikanoellhniko xioumor pou dia8etw!" Tade efh : HoldemGr (o lagos) Kalh sou nyxta kai sovara... perastika file. -
Online πόκερ μόνο μεταξύ Ελλήνων; - Μέρος Β
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's liondani σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
O mikrokosmos tou ka8enos holdem einai ena dikaiwma pou den mporeis na tou to afaireseis. Epic fail h sygkrhsh... -
To thema einai oti me to misclick den exeis idea pou vriskesai. Giati aytos htan anagkasmenos (efoson h8ele na kanei raise) na restarei. 2 periptwseis file gia mena me vash ta statistika tou pou prosekses kai to profil tou. 1)Ad-Xd>9(Ad10d,AdJd) 2)99 paizei kai poly mikro pair px 44,66. 3)Gia set den ton vazw. Den mou ka8ete kala. Call kai apo mena. En telei ti egine ?
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Συνελήφθησαν νότιο-κορεάτες hackers!
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's D.uK.e σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
Antonis έγραψε: 8ewreis oti symferei kapoion na exei sto myalo tou to endexomeno na xasei estw ena dollario me a8emhto-paranomo-pesto opws 8es, tropo? Den nomizw. Apthn allh eixa kai exw akoma mia aporia.. Exw akousei arketous "epaggelmaties" na lene pws einai kalytera na paizeis se mia etairia me ligotero kosmo ana meso oro ka8e wra gia pollous logous. Apthn allh exw akousei tous idious na lene oti prepei na dialekseis mia gnwsth etairia na paizeis, etsi wste na eisai diasfalismenos kata polles enoies (cashout-superusers klp klp klp) Pragmatika poia einai h kalyterh epilogh step by step? Ennow oti afoy profanws "kleidwseis" ola ta portakia sto pc sou, meta ti einai kalytero na dialekseis ws pros to kerdos sou se syndiasmo me thn asfaleia ? Gnwsth etairia me polles xiliades paiktes alla me megalh asfaleia klp klp h mikrh etairia me ligoterous paiktes kai perissoteres pi8anothtes na kerdiseis alla me mikroterh asfaleia ? An tyxei kai kapoios pou paizei syxna dei to post kai exei ton xrono as apanthsei. GL 2 all kai se sena peponi! -
Logo tou stack sou den 8a ekana 3bet preflop. An ypologisa swsta me ena raise tis taksews twn 5000-5500 exeis valei hdh sto pot to 1-1.5/6 tou stack sou. Twra vevaia an mou peis oti se 4bet-shove tou 8a ekanes to call giati yparxei pi8anothta na kanei kati tetoio me mikro pp (44px) h akoma kai me K-Q klp tote 8a htan kalo to 3bet. Eiste blinds kai apo olo to image pou deixnei kai exeis katalavei einai polu megalo to range tou. Opote an eisoun gia call se shove tou pre flop sto diko sou 3 bet, tote paw me to 3bet kai shove sto flop. Mono se tetoia periptwsh omws. An den eisoun sigouros an telika ekanes to call se all in tou tote protimw to shove sou pre. 1 ekatommyrio % pantws, sto flop 8a empainan ola mesa! Ekei me to call me pe8anes. 1)3bet pre an hsoun apofasismenos gia call se shove 2) All in diko sou pre an exei sto range tou tosa polla hands opws mas eipes. 3)To standar gia mena sto flop eprepe na mpoun ola mesa afou etsi kialliws ekei katelhkses ! Ti egine telika?
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Συνελήφθησαν νότιο-κορεάτες hackers!
μία συζήτηση δημοσίευσε D.uK.e σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
** Αυτό το θέμα ασχολείται με το άρθρο: Συνελήφθησαν νότιο-κορεάτες hackers! ** Kalh tyxh! -
tsekare ayto. To evlepa live kai eixa meinei pagwto. Ena apta megalytera sunday millions eixe ftasei stous teleytaious 6. Eixe ginei prospa8eia gia deal 2-3 fores kai enas mono ta xalouse. En telei egine to deal kai akrivws ena hand meta ginetai to parakatw. Kanw copy paste ta logia opws einai sto pokerstarsblog. Another attempt at deal talks was made during six-handed play after the stacks shifted a bit, and all agreed to see the chip-chop numbers. Upon their relay by Demidov, there was one protester who sought more than the allocated amount, and discussions ensued. Several players were more than willing to give a few thousand dollars to make the concession, and the numbers were finally solidified. With $30,000 set aside for the eventual winner, the payouts were set as follows: Seat 1: ZyeD3 (15,519,804 in chips) = $144,353.10 Seat 2: Zadman5311 (44,532,600 in chips) = $252,662.86 Seat 5: m8675309a (30,384,279 in chips) = $200,844.74 Seat 6: Guldlemmen4 (23,099,863 in chips) = $177,650.76 Seat 7: waWe (30,553,744 in chips) = $205,477.38 Seat 9: call110 (38,739,710 in chips) = $250,037.00 And on the second hand back from the break, the action exploded. Guldlemmen4 led out with a raise, but waWe immediately pushed all-in, and m8675309a came over the top with another all-in move. Guldlemmen4 called all-in, and m8675309a had both other players covered. The hands were shown as: m8675309a: Q♠ Q♥ waWe: K♣ K♥ Guldlemmen4: A♣ A♠ The board came down 2♣ K♦ 9♥ T♦ J♦ with enough drama for everyone's mama. The straight came for m8675309a, who took the entire pot, eliminating Guldlemmen4 in sixth place with $177,650.76 and waWe in fifth place with $205,477.38. Zadman5311's comments of "omg" and "lmfao" summed up what many were likely thinking. ps: To link einai ayto : http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/sm/2009/z ... 61262.html ps2: Des ta apotelesmata tou paikth zadman5311 mexri ekeinh thn mera pou shkwse ena apta megalytera tour ever. ps3: ahahahha kalh tyxh!!!! Eimai sigouros oti sou eftiaksa akoma parapanw th mera!!! ps4: AA vs KK vs QQ se 6handed kai kerdizoun oi QQ?? ts ts ts ts!!! AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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File to pio aplo pragma pou exeis na kaneis an pisteveis oti einai rigged gia kapoio logo to online poker, einai na mhn paizeis h na eisai apla etoimos na antimetwpiseis kati tetoio. Apo kei kai meta to mono "mempto" gia mena htan ta all in tou kai call tou se all in allwn pou ta vlepw paraloga. Eidika me K-7 pou trwei reraise apto BB(shmainei oti kati exei) kai kanei all in, den yparxoun oute ta pot odds oute to hand oute tpt. Genika to play tou einai pio paralogo apto ti vgainei katw. To 65-35 h 60-40 den einai 8ayma an vgei anapoda. Opws epishs kai to oti ena vradi kapoiou 8a tou anoiksei o lwkos kai 8a kerdizei ta panta. To exw dei live kiolas polles fores. Opote mhn xalas thn ygeia sou, an eisai kalos pragmatika tote sto live toulaxiston 8a kerdizeis. Ola good kai na elpizeis mhn peseis se 5 Assous pote giati ekei den 8a ksereis ti na kaneis!!! Pata an 8es sto google : Pokerstars 5 aces des tis photo kai 8a katalaveis! Symvainoun kiayta pou kai pou! GL 2 all!
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Αποζημιωση από Pokerstars για το Collusion στα Don
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's fileasfog σε Online Πόκερ
Apo oso katalava aptis 2 prwtes selides, o xrhsths pou anoikse to thread htan enas-mia apo aytous pou ekleisan to account tous legontas oti symmeteixan se collusion kai giayto diamartyretai. Alla an diavasete parakatw (sel 2 kai 3) 8a deite oti o xrhsths psilo paradexete oti stous "regs" symperiferontan genika diafwretika. Dld edixne perissotero repsect sta play tous. Kai milame gia enan reg pou htan sto double or nothing 8esh 1-2 gia arketo kairo. To leei kapou mesa. Opote apoti sympairainw paizei olo ayto na einai ena akoma tragiko la8os ths stars. Kai gw exw parei xampari collusion se 6max kai to anefera kai phra meta apo ena mhna pisw ta fraga. Collusion omws 2 atomwn.Edw den moiazei na einai etsi. Apla kapoioi evgazan monimos arketa fraga apo ayta ta sng kai isws kapoioi apo aytous gnwrizontan metaksy tous kai giayto tous phre olous h mpalla. Den nomizw na mazeythkan twra 30 atoma kai na symfwnhsan na arxisoun ta collusion se ola ta DN SNGS. Einai tragika xazo ayto. Want to remember! -
Κουβεντιάζοντας με τον Γιάννη Ηλιάδη - Α Μέρος
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's argentinos6 σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
Mixali ti egine re leipeis se adeia??? Nickakis?? Billi?? Kanenas?? Stayrooo???? Den hr8e h wra na kleisete to thread h anyway na to perasete kapou pou na mhn vgainei sta prosfata mhnymata? Ektos tou oti to sygkekrimeno thread einai mia poly endiaferousa synenteyksh tou Gianni Hliadi (kamia epafh me thn olh shzhthsh dld), exei katanthsei kai geloio me ta idia kai ta idia pou postarontai. Den DEN DEN DEN ofeleitai kaneis apo olo ayto. Kai arga h grigora mporei na ksefygei... IMO efoson prokeitai gia kati pou den einai epikodomoitiko gia kanenan, oute gia arxarious oute gia "pros", mhpws hr8e h wra na to kleidwsete h na to "8apsete" ? -
Κουβεντιάζοντας με τον Γιάννη Ηλιάδη - Α Μέρος
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's argentinos6 σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
gsbets έγραψε: Apsogos o giwrgos. Akrivws ayta skeftomai kai gw. Genika apoti oi perissoteroi (elpizw) na katalavate, den yparxei POTE mono aspro kai mayro. An ta vivlia htan 100% axreiasta den 8a ta edinan ston prwto apokleis8enta apo ena swro tournoua, oute 8a yphrxe sygkekrimenh etairia pou ta metafrazei sta Ellhnika OUTE 8a empainan sth diadikasia merikoi aptous 8rylous tou paliou KAI TOY SYGXRONOU poker na ta grapsoun. Apthn allh plevra omws nomizw pws akoma kai se kapoia episthmh opws h iatrikh (mat 8elw th gnwmh sou) den yparxei to 100% twn pi8anothtwn grammeno sta vivlia gia ka8e endexomeno kai se ka8e periptwsh. PANTA paizoun rolo para ma para polloi paragontes. Den shmainei oti epeidh kapoios parousiazei X prepei na twn 8erapeysei o giatros me thn Y 8erapeia prin lavei ypopsh to istoriko tou, kai kai kai kai........ Opote kai stis pases den yparxei to STANDAR, yparxei to eksartatai. Apo kei kai epeita den nomizw kanenas apo esas na hksere ti shmainei to pot odds h to folding equity otan ksekinhse na paizei poker. Ayto kapou grafthke-analy8hke kai meta diadw8hke apo kapoious etsi wste na to ma8oun oloi. Epanalamvanw oute oi men 8a allaksete gnwmh oute oi de, opote leixte to mia wra arxitera h postarete kapoio kommati-ar8ro apo vivlio pou den arese se kapoion kai shkwnei shzhthsh. GL ps:+1 kai gia to post tou Mat. Kyriws sxetika me thn symperifora orismenwn edw mesa. -
Κουβεντιάζοντας με τον Γιάννη Ηλιάδη - Α Μέρος
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's argentinos6 σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
Giati den pernete apofash kai oi men kai oi de oti den prokeitai na allaksei kaneis aptous dyo th gnwmh tou kai na stamathsete na postarete ta idia kai ta idia sxetika me ta vivlia? O enas pistevei pws arxh olwn einai ta vivlia. O allos pistevei oti den mporeis na paizeis tyflo kai aytomatopoihmeno poker kanontas MONO oti lene ta vivlia. Kai oi dyo plevres en merh exoun dikia kai adika imo. Apo kei kai pera oute o h mia plevra 8a stamathsei na diavazei epeidi to eipan oi apenanti oute oi allh plevra 8a arxisei na diavazei. Pistevw pws pio epikodomhtiko 8a htan o sick p.x. na postarei an vrei xrono kapoio shmeio apo ena opoiodhpote vivlio pou xreiazetai shzhthsh kai to 8ewrei la8os. As poume, panw sayto mporei na ginei shzhthsh kai analysh kai arketoi apo emas na kerdisoun apo olo ayto. Twra genika na lete, nai kai oxi gia ta vivlia, mono xalieste kai den vgainei kai apotelesma. GL 2 all -
Κουβεντιάζοντας με τον Γιάννη Ηλιάδη - Α Μέρος
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's argentinos6 σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
harima έγραψε: +1 -
Κουβεντιάζοντας με τον Γιάννη Ηλιάδη - Α Μέρος
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's argentinos6 σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
harima έγραψε: Allo to na krineis mia gnwmh tou kai allo na ton prosvaleis. Esy prosvales-xlevases kai malista asxhma. Eides kanenan allo pou diafwnhse me th gnwmh tou taramas na ton evrise h na ton prosvale? Goustareis twra pou ka8esai se mia o8onh mprosta kai avrio 8a les sta filarakia sou: "x8es thn eipa ston taramas!!!" ???? Saresei e ? Me tetoio myalo filaraki den pas pou8ena. To na sevesai ligo parapanw estw tous kata poly megalyterous sou den 8a sto ma8w egw oute o mat oute o crackling oute kanenas kai profanws den to ma8es otan eprepe kai den 8a to ma8eis pote. Opote den asxoloumai allo. Kane kai sy oti sou katevei. -
Κουβεντιάζοντας με τον Γιάννη Ηλιάδη - Α Μέρος
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's argentinos6 σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
iJustRiveredYou έγραψε: Opws nomizeis file. Apla na sou pw pws allo h kritikh kai allo o xlevasmos kai oi prosvoles. An mh ti allo asxeta aptis gnwmes gia to poker pou krinontai apo olous, toulaxiston sevasou thn terastia apoti katalabainw diafora hlhkias pou exete. to +1000 sto "eisai paratragoudo" einai apla la8os. Kane oti nomizeis apo kei kai pera. Filika GL -
Κουβεντιάζοντας με τον Γιάννη Ηλιάδη - Α Μέρος
topic απάντησε D.uK.e's argentinos6 σε Σχόλια σε άρθρα του Pokerland
+1 gia to post tou mat. Estw logo ths diaforas hlikias mhn lete oti malkia sas katevei sto kefali. Ligo parapanw sevasmos den vlaptei oso la8os kai an einai ayta pou leei kapoios. Ante ksafnika mou ginate oloi gmaw kai dernw edw mesa me 2-3 cashout kai 2000-3000 profit. edit: Eidate kanenan apo olous tous prohgoumenous pou diafwnhsan me ayta pou eipe o john, na ton evrize h na ton prosvale? Eseis pws thn eidate th fash? New generation online pokerades(anatrixiasa) pou meiwnoume kai xlevazoume opoion mas kapnisei? Epanalamvanw, ligo parapanw sevasmos se enan an8rwpo estw logo hlikias den vlaptei kanenan. -
To all in apo utg me 7-2 einai h blofa? Kai to an katsei ekatse an oxi ola good pws sto po#$@so proekypse? Louka re man pragmatika spamareis anelehta. Kane oti nomizeis oti einai swsto kai kerdoforo gia th zwh sou alla please re man stamata na postareis oti sou katevei. Egw prwteinw opws stamathses na paizeis gia deka meres, aykshse to se 3-4 mhnes kai taytoxrona melethse ta panta. Apo site ekpaideytika video posts threads vivlia ta panta. Taytoxrona stamata na postareis kai edw gia to idio diasthma apla diavaze ta threads. An apla goustareis na spammareis kai na nomizeis oti symmetexeis energa se ayto to forum synexise etsi. Alla ayto to forum xanei apo tetoies parlapipes. Telos na ksereis oti exeis 300+ posts ta opoia einai prwton aparadekta kai deyteron den exeis apokomisei apolytws tipota apo ayta. Oute exeis veltiw8ei oute exeis shzhthsei sovara pote oute kati pou na einai aksio anaforas sou exei mhnei. TO APOLYTO 0 Kane oti se fwtisei o 8eos an kai pistevw pws akoma kai aytos shkwse ta xeria psila me th parth sou. Filika EDIT: Pros mods. Imo lock this thread to grhgorotero.
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foustouki έγραψε: Σταυρε σορυ που ρωταω ρε μαν, αλλα απο που το εμαθες εσυ αυτο? Ειναι κατι που στο ειπε καποιος? Το λες απο προσωπικη σου εμπειρια? Το διαβασες καπου? Γιατι αν δεν υπαρχει το *3 και το 3bet δεν πλησιαζει καν το min raise πως βγαινει απο κει συμπερασμα οτι το shove ειναι nice move? *2,5, *2,2 * 5 και gg nice move? Ok... ps: ριξε μεξικο και δεν θα χασεις.
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Ο Αλεξίου από το button έκανε raise (135.000 μάρκες σε blinds 25Κ/50Κ), δέχθηκε reraise από το big blind (€330.000) και απάντησε με all in (1,5 εκατομ. μάρκες). Όπως μας δήλωσε ο Έλληνας παίκτης, ο αντίπαλος του θα έκανε call μόνο με Άσσους ή Ρηγάδες. Απλες αποριες : Γιατι το reraise στις 330,000 με τι θα το εκανε? Με J-7? Και αντε πες το reraise δεν το δινουμε σημασια,μονο εγω παρατηρησα οτι εβαλε 135.000(ουτε καν *3) απτο button και μετα shovare 1.5 mil σε σχεδον miniraise? Αυτο τι δειχνει? ΑΑ? Οποιος εχει εκει δηλαδη QQ η ακομα και JJ-AK θα τα πετουσε τοοοοσο ευκολα? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Anyway. Congrats για το cash Απο κει και επειτα η ολη αυτη αναλυση που παρουσιαζει σαν λογικη, ολου του κοσμου τα reads να εχεις, εμενα δεν μου φαινεται καθολου μα καθολου λογικη.Sorry. Ισως να ειμαι εγω λαθος.
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http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcou ... 10858&rr=1
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Den yparxei call. Apla aporw pws to syzhtate. Call gia na petyxoume ti? Na dwsoume ta odds ston MP na mpei kiaytos? Call giati exoume position? H call giati kseroume oti eimaste polyyy mprosta opws px an eixame AA kai 8elame na traparoume to aggrodonk? Gia mena 60% reraise dynato kai 40% fold. To call den yparxei oop me tetoio fyllo. Kai to reraise to lew giati to button profanws exei ta reads pou exoume emeis gia ton MP("ένας από μεσαία θέση που κάνει raise αρκετά συχνά και συνήθως πάει πάσο σε 3 bets") exei kai to position gia na kanei ayto to reraise. Opote kai me ena AQ poly pi8anon na to ekane. Apo kei kai pera einai epilogh mas to an 8a fouskwsoume to pot oop preflop h 8a pame fold. Call mhn tyxon vgei to dekari den 8a ekana.
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Vasika magkes apoti vlepw, arketoi apo emas 8a eimaste leykada se kapoia fash tou kalokairiou. Opote kanoniste ferte tis gynaikes sas kai ekei panw sto 3hmero-4hmero pou 8a arxisoume na psilovariomaste kanonizoume se kanena ksenodoxeio ena megalo sng, stelnoume tis gynaikes na kanoun parea metaksy tous kai pername zaxarh! Psisou kai sy charlie!!! hahahahahaha!!!
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Konstantinidis έγραψε: Den kserw an epitrepetai h oxi. 8a sou pw mono pws den prokeitai na veltiw8eis an xrhsimopoieis ena tetoio programma. Teleiws la8os. An den mporeis na ypologizeis ta odds, paize kalytera 1 tournament mono kai oxi polla mazi. Taytoxrona prospa8hse na eisai sygkentrwmenos kai 8a deis oti ola 8a er8oun mona tous.