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Egw auto pou tha ekana se polla turns einai oti tha ekana ena mikro bet gia na kratisw to initiative kai na mborw na checkarw to river an thelw.
An kanw check behind to turn tote to profitability tou call an kanei bet out sto river profanos e3artate apo to bet sizing, ti akrivos irthe, ktl
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Katalevenw pos skeftese kai giati les auta pou les, alla sou leipei kati poly simantiko stin oli sou logiki:
Gia na kerdizeis sto poker prepei na vazeis ton antipalo sou se oso to dinato pio polles diskoles apofaseis mboreis. Parallila prepei esi na apofeugeis auta ta diskola spots opou niwtheis oti misas tin zwi sou.
Oi kaliteroi online players to 3eroun auto kai to eformozoun opou ginete. An ginoun checkraise sto flop kai exoune ena marginal hand, kanoune mini 3-bet kai vazoun ton antipalo stin apofasi (epeidi to balansaroun kai me ta monster tous), anti na kanoun mono flat kai na vrethoun se tromera diskolo spot sto turn otan tous ginei kalo size bet out.
Auto to hand einai i idia periptosi. Auto pou les oti-
"den katalabainw pws einai dynatwn na syzhtame toso gia to an einai spot sto opoio xwraei raise eite pre eite sto flop apo thn stigmh poy oloi ligo poly katlabainw pws exoyn to feeling pws eimaste syxna pisw kai taytoxrona diwxnoyme kai oles tis mplofes."ek protis opseos einai entelos logiko, alla ama to skefteis kala den einai. An o antipalos einai syxna mbrosta opws les, tote den einai swsto na kanoume call down! Opotan to na dio3oume tis mblofes tou einai KALO PRAGMA, epeidi den tha mborousame na tis kanoume call kai tha mas klevane to pot! Ton antipalo theloume na ton afinoume na mblofarei mono otan einai +EV na kanoume call down anyway.
Elpizw na e3igisa kala auta pou ennousa
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alienhack έγραψε:
To 4bet/fold με QQ δεν είναι καν συζητίσιμο για μένα(πιστεύοντας ότι έχει πάντα ΑΑ,ΚΚ αν κάνει 5bet),γιατί με την ίδια λογική θα πρέπει να κάνουμε 4bet/fold με ΚΚ.Not true.. Me shoving range tou antipalou QQ+, an exoume QQ eimaste kathara paso enw me KK kathara call.
Anyway epanalamvanw auto einai gia NL25, egw sto NL5k+ den kanw pote fold QQ preflop obviously, oute sto flop etc
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To raise sto flop den einai gia na frenareis tipota, einai informational kirios. An erthoun dio blanks tha prepei na pliroseis 2 megala akomi barrels ontas arketa piso sto range tou antipalou.
Shove me TT giati na kanei? Kai AJ einai poli mikro % tou range tou meta to 3bet preflop ktl.
Oso gia to an flattarei, genika tha kanoume check-behind polla turns, i na kanoume bet kai check behind to river so einai pio ftino an exei AA/KK
edit: Ekei pragmatika pou tin exoume asxima kai den to exete katalavei einai na erthei ena middle card sto turn anti assos, kai na mas kanei bet 75% tou pot. Pe3ete ekei na doume..
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Hehe kapou konta pantos, irthan ola ta lefta mou kopsane mono kamia $60 gia fees opotan eimai very happy. PM erotiseis gia to premium wire, opws eipa einai gia 20k+ omws
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Simfonoume se polla, alla gia to flop den katalavenw pws pisteveis oti den tha sou kanei 2nd barrel, alla tha sou kanei 3bet sto flop me xeirotero hand epeidi se vazei se flush draw
Episis opws eipa se ena 2.3-2.4x raise sto flop den provlepw o avg 25NL player peta3ei oute 99/TT oute overcards, mallon tha callarei mia
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To leak tou adinatou pexti se auti tin periptosi einai to looseness tou, kai giauto to lathos pou anamenoume na kanei einai oti me xeirotera hands apo to diko mas tha kanei call (ite sto 4bet pre, ite sto raise sto flop). Giauto kanoume kai mikro to raise amount, gia value kai oxi mono gia cheap info.
Enas allos logos pou den xanoume value einai oti an kaneis aplo call sto 3bet pre, tote meta upoxreonese na antimetopiseis ena megalo range kai tha kaneis polla lathoi, e.g. flop A62, kanei bet miso pot me JJ kai esi pasareis logo tou range tou.
Oso gia to oti xanoume to max sto flop otan mas kerdizei, nai xanoume to max se auto to street alla glitonoume 2 alla betting streets ontas me mono 2 outs to improve. Opotan xanoume pio liga overall sigoura otan eimaste piso.
Me to edit ti ennoeis? Oti exei hdh sigoura KK+ kai na kanoume mono set mining? Kai mono TT+, AQ+ na einai to range tou, xwris raise pezoume entelos stin mesi tou range tou kai otan ise sti mesi tou range einai pou ginonte ta pio polla lathoi meta..
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Poker is a game of imperfect information, kai panta tha uparxoun ta isws. Alla opws leei o filos mas o galfond sinexos, kai poli liges plirofories na exoume pano ston antipalo mas, pali prepei na tis xrisimopoioume sto megisto dinaton vathmo (e.g. se mia eklogiki ekstratia, kai mono to 1% twn psifwn na gnorizoume kai o enas na kerdizei 51/49, pali einai swsto an prepei na kanoume provlepsi na diale3oume ton 51%).
Me liga logia, with lack of better information, treat opp like an abc at 25nl and if you get leveled nh.
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Egw apo tin plevra mou simfono me sena ineverfold. 4bet pre (mikro, kai fold se 5bet) einai i mia epilogi, allios ena mikro raise sto flop (size pou na einai tempted na kanei mono call me overcards, kai pou tha flattarei me TT,99.
Vatal auta pou les einai gia NL200 kai panw, oxi gia NL25. O estw reg tou NL25 den kanei level 3 thinking epeidi den perimenei tous antipalous tou na kanoun oute level 2.
To simantiko einai oti sto NL25 den uparxei poly to 5bet bluff pre, oute to 3bet bluff sto flop. Combo draws hardly uparxoun episis me to 3bet tou preflop...
Opws episis se auto to level den tha mas kanoun sixna 3bet bluff pre kai 3 barrel bluff na kanoume pick off me to QQ opws kanoun sta high stakes..
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Kalos pextis imo alla prepei na doulepsei sta leaks tou sto ultimate texas holdem, kathos kai sto bowling!
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Hahaha out of context! Den eipa telio 'apolyta', apla telio gia na min faw raise apo ntama
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Episis to bet sto turn einai gia na sinexisw na exw elegxo tou xeriou, na min vrethw antimetopos me ena megalo bet sto river pou tha me valei se diskoli thesi (afou krataw to initiative tha kanei sinithos check to river). Episis thelw na ton xreosw gia ta opoia outs sigoura exei gia to river..
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LOL gamer.
iJRY, opws pigene to match eniotha oti an eixe king tha ekane checkraise to flop opotan to apokleiw. To idio kai me to flush draw sto flop.
Apo ekei kai pera kanw to telio bet sizing sto turn se sxesi me ta stacks, outos oste an exei dama na ton simferei na kanei pali mono call.
An den exei dama, riga, i flush eimai mbrosta
Apo ekei kai pera to an exei polla outs den me peirazei, pali tha eimai favorite. -
Full Tilt Poker Game #22909186406: Turbo $20K Guar (Heads-Up) (175605694), Table 21 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:54:33 ET - 2010/08/07
Seat 1: schappuscha (1,215)
Seat 2: UnoffensiveNick (2,785)
UnoffensiveNick posts the small blind of 20
schappuscha posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to UnoffensiveNick [
]UnoffensiveNick raises to 80
schappuscha has 15 seconds left to act
schappuscha calls 40
*** FLOP *** [
]schappuscha checks
UnoffensiveNick bets 80
schappuscha calls 80
*** TURN *** [
] [ 
]schappuscha checks
UnoffensiveNick bets 140
schappuscha has 15 seconds left to act
schappuscha raises to 1,055, and is all in
UnoffensiveNick has 15 seconds left to act
UnoffensiveNick calls 915
schappuscha shows [
]UnoffensiveNick shows [
]*** RIVER *** [
] [ 
]schappuscha shows King Queen high
UnoffensiveNick shows a pair of Sevens
UnoffensiveNick wins the pot (2,430) with a pair of Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,430 | Rake 0
Board: [Qd Kc 3d 2d 5s]
Seat 1: schappuscha (big blind) showed [Tc 9s] and lost with King Queen high
Seat 2: UnoffensiveNick (small blind) showed [7s 7h] and won (2,430) with a pair of Sevens
schappuscha (Observer): dude what the &&%%
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Ekane kai prin ligo ena apisteuto call down me pair 8ria mono itan fovero! Hahaha
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hehe einai wres pantos oles oi parallages ama asxolitheis ligo.
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johnt2121 kai the mouth tha kanane kala filarakia!
Full Tilt Poker Game #22865626991: FTOPS Event #4 (167282865), Table 21 - 120/240 - Limit Omaha H/L - 22:31:02 ET - 2010/08/05
Seat 1: betudontbet (4,050)
Seat 2: citation3 (2,470)
Seat 3: NoSkill_NoLuck (1,620)
Seat 4: Bbuddy4brkfst (5,345)
Seat 5: Mike Matusow (3,250)
Seat 6: Greenbudman (3,130)
Seat 7: UnoffensiveNick (6,680)
Seat 8: mc4chess (5,420)
Greenbudman posts the small blind of 60
UnoffensiveNick posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to UnoffensiveNick [2d 6d 4d 2s]
mc4chess folds
betudontbet folds
citation3 folds
NoSkill_NoLuck folds
Bbuddy4brkfst folds
Mike Matusow raises to 240
Greenbudman has 15 seconds left to act
Greenbudman folds
UnoffensiveNick calls 120
*** FLOP *** [9h 4c As]
UnoffensiveNick checks
Mike Matusow bets 120
UnoffensiveNick calls 120
*** TURN *** [9h 4c As] [5s]
UnoffensiveNick bets 240
Mike Matusow raises to 480
UnoffensiveNick calls 240
*** RIVER *** [9h 4c As 5s] [2c]
UnoffensiveNick checks
Mike Matusow checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mike Matusow shows [Ad Kd Qd 5d] two pair, Aces and Fives, for high
UnoffensiveNick shows [2d 6d 4d 2s] three of a kind, Twos, for high and 6,5,4,2,A, for low
UnoffensiveNick wins the high pot (870) with three of a kind, Twos
UnoffensiveNick wins the low pot (870) with 6,5,4,2,A
Mike Matusow: love playing good and losing
mc4chess: lets be honest you played that hand awful
Mike Matusow: yea no 2 on irver i bet and win pot
FiShStIcKs3 (Observer): haha c mike is such a cry baby...never shuts up
UnoffensiveNick: lol right
UnoffensiveNick: i will fold 2nd nut low with 2 blockers
Mike Matusow: oh im sorry u hita 2outer nh
UnoffensiveNick: sorry i was freerolling
Mike Matusow: fk everyone i hate u all
PoutsoKefalos (Observer): HAHAHA
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Ti eidous provlima akrivos?
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Hehe bragging tha itan if I said the amount I was actually withdrawing
Anyway guys exw zitisei to withdrawal me to premium bank wire, se mia vdomada otan mou erthoun ta $ tha kanw post edw an mou kopsane tipota pouthena.
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ilia, prota apola gg pses krima pou den to sikoses kiolas.
Na sou pw kai sena kai ston imbecile oti apoti mou eipan apo full tilt, uparxei tropos na min xreotheis tipota. Anti na kaneis to domestic wire transfer pou leei sta withdrawal options, uparxei option gia na sou stiloun premium wire transfer, kai mou lene oti:
Your friend is talking about Local Bank Transfer and not wire transfers.
With wire transfer we withdraw the funds out of your account in US dollars
and send the wire to your US dollar account in US funds. There will be no
conversion done.
To mono thema einai oti to minimum gia auto to wire trasnfer einai $20,000 opotan den einai gia olous. Mboreis na stileis email stin full tilt na to kanoniseis.
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hahaha ne den pezete ekei
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Rounders in France:
Michel: "I raise."
Teddy CIA: "It's a position raise. I call."
- The flop comes 5-7-A, with two diamonds -
Michel: "I bet the pot."
Teddy CIA: "I raise the pot."
Michel: "I reraise the pot."
Teddy CIA: "I reraise the pot."
Michel: "Pot."
Teddy CIA: "Pot."
Michel: "Pot."
Teddy CIA: "Pot."
Michel: "Pot."
Teddy CIA: "Pot."
Michel (voiceover): "I sit back and think. I have
three aces - the best possible hand. I want him to
think I'm debating a call, but really I'm just
thinking about Monte Carlo, and whatever the
fuck is in Monte Carlo."
Michel: *shrugs* "Okay, well, I re-pot it, I'm all in,
because I don't think you have a pair." *winks at the
camera*
Teddy CIA: "Who are you winking at? It doesn't matter,
I call."
Michel (voiceover): "I know before he even says it."
Teddy CIA: "I have 8-6-4-3 with two diamonds, for a
wrap straight draw and a flush draw, which is a
favorite over your top set."
- Turn is a King. River is a 2 which gives Teddy CIA
an ace-to-five straight for the win. -
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Gogo, piese me to chip lead sou eisai se idaniko position. Sto final table pe3e ligo tight stin arxi na vgoun enas dio kai arxise pali piesi kai polla anoigmata preflop
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Den uparxoun polla gia na diavaseis pano tou, alla ena poli wraio kai diaskedastiko game pou parallila matheneis gia poker einai to 2-7 Triple Draw. Mono sto Stars uparxei omws apoti 3erw.
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