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FantisPoker έγραψε: Mhpws eimai mono egw pou dyskoleythka m'auth thn protash? Kapoios na th metafrasei se Ellhnika?
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Optimal river play εκτός θέσης. Παρακαλώ απόψεις..
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SamGreek έγραψε: Sam, apenanti se kapoion reg pou den einai aparadektos post flop, den yparxei h paramikrh periptwsh na einai profitable to call sou (xwris na ypologizw kan oti to BB mporei na kanei squeeze.) -
Optimal river play εκτός θέσης. Παρακαλώ απόψεις..
topic απάντησε holdemgr's SamGreek σε Συζήτηση για Hands
Sam an kaneis bet sto river kai petaksei to nut flush tou tote profanws exei problhma to DIKO sou paixnidi (einai apisteyta unbalanced h gia na to thesw pio apla se theorei nitfish) -
pitsikos έγραψε: Ap'th stigmh pou einai paranomo, exoun ypoxrewsh na kanoun th douleia tous kai na kanoun syllhpseis/prosagwgwes klp
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Johnny22 έγραψε: Den katalabainw ti eixan na prosferoun oi monolektikes apanthseis pou edwses s'auto to thread. Kane trolling se kapoio allo thread? thx
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gsbets έγραψε: Mhn prospatheis na mantepseis. Isws parasythikes ap'ton titlo FPS alla to FPS anaferetai sto gay bet pou ekana. De symfwnw, nomizw oti to range tou einai kyriws AA/KK ante kai AQ @ Sam: To check - call t o aporriptw giati to range tou sto river den exei polles bloffes (1. ekane cbet sto flop 3way me to fish 2. arketes apo tis bloffes tha pontaroun sto turn) Ap'thn allh to range tou exei polla hands kalytera ap'ta dika mas (pou ekanan pot control sto turn) ALLA den exei pote h poly spania kapoio big hand dhl flush. Ara kalytera check-raise anti gia check-call alla mallon to check-fold einai kalytero ap'ola
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aekara1921 έγραψε: Exoume mpolika euro akoma. An kaneis tis prakseis tha deis akribws poso. @ Antonis: Den eipa pote oti to check-call einai kakh kinhsh PANTA. Edw einai kakh se allo hand mporei na einai h kalyterh klp @monkeys : Den kserw an to eipate gia plaka alla arxizei na m'aresei h idea tou shove
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gsbets έγραψε: Check-call nomizw oti einai h xeiroterh epilogh Eidika apenanti se kapoion pou kserei ti kanei postflop nomizw oti einai ap'ta hands pou kaneis fold kai kapoio % isws kaneis 3bet. An twra exeis kapoia read gia to pws paizei postflop pou mporeis na ekmetaleyteis tote isws einai kalo kai to flat
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Xwris na theorw lathos to skeptiko tou Sam alla exoume set opote as apofasisei autos an thelei na kanei hero call (an exei kanei blocking bet) Pantws sto turn egw DEN tha ekana raise se periptwsh pou o UTG exei (h thelei na deiksei oti exei) AQ/KQ kai kanei aytos raise opote polla omorfa pargmata mporoun na symboun. Alla an einai passive/fishy tote sigoura raise (afou tha kanei cold call me AQ/KQ ki oxi fold)
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6-handed 3/6 euro Kapoio fish se thesh UTG kanei limp sta 6 kai o CO kanei raise sta 24 O CO einai kalos TAG regular alla den exoume paiksei kai polles fores mazi. Exoume effective stacks kapou sta 750 (to HH den katagrafei stack sizes) Kanw loose call sto BB me QhTh logw tou fish Flop: Jd Qd 4s Kanw check-call 42, to fish exei kanei fold Turn: 6d Check egw, check ki autos River: 2s Kanw ena mikro bet sta 54 pou einai gyrw sto 1/3 tou pot ki aytos kanei raise sta 139. Ti kanw twra?
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MTT hand. Πώς κρίνετε τον τρόπο που έπαιξαν;
topic απάντησε holdemgr's SamGreek σε Συζήτηση για Hands
Kai oi 2 paiksan me to xeirotero dynato tropo se kathe eykairia pou eixan na pathsoun ta koumpakia tous. Sto turn otan o hero exei kanei raise pre, check behind se drawy flop kai min raise se turn pou den einai blank tote san BB exeis ypoxrewsh na kaneis shove me oti exei ekeinh th stigmh. -
^^^^ tilt?
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Hand 2 exei diafora an o antipalos einai UTG h CO An einai UTG OK sto river alla de tha kana pote 2nd barrel sto turn - petamena lefta An einai CO pali de m'aresei giati eksartatai ap'ton antipalo. Egw proswpika tha kana call sto river me to 100% tou range pou ekana call sto turn. Alloi paiktes mporei na einai pio loose weak kai na doulepsei
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Ehhh OK. Einai ligo tragiko na sygkrinoume thn Ellada me thn Amerikh. Den einai sthn idia kathgoria Me thn Tanzania isws
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Re paidia se allh xwra zeite? H mhpws eiste akoma 18? "Ises eykairies sthn Ellada" "Oi misthoi den einai asxhmoi" "Ta penipisthmia einai OK" klp
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ayuken έγραψε: To board texture de nomizw oti mas peirazei. An mh ti allo einai kalo gia to range mas: exoume kanei 3-bet OOP ton UTG raiser! Kanoume represent AA/KK kai isws AKs (sigoura tha prepe na xoume megalytero range apenanti s'ena 40/30+ alla lew ti kanoume represent oxi ti exoume) Nomizw 2 logoi (gia pio standard size cbet): 1. Theloume na paroume value apo ta dominated hands (kapoios LAG paikths pou kanei bet-call preflop tha xei mpolika) 2. Logw tou oti to flop einai toso kalo gia to range mas perimenoume oti enas paikths pou to katalabainei auto den prokeitai na kanei pote raise se flop cbet para mono me poly isxyro range. Omws den kseroume an o sygkekrimenos mporei na to katalabei kai poso enw parallhla fainetai na einai poly aggro. An kanoume mikro cbet kai dextoume ekei raise tote tha einai poly dyskolo na antidrasoume swsta. Katalabainei oti deixnoume dynamh akoma kai me mikro cbet? H mhpws to theorei adynamia kai kaname induce bluff raise?
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alienhack έγραψε: Twra pou to ksanadiabazw, den eixa ypologisei swsta (OK, OK katholou) ta stacks kai nomiza oti eixate poly perissotera pisw sas sto river. S'aythn thn periptwsh nomizw einai easy shove kai de me peirazei to bet sizing sou sto turn (alla sto flop de m'aresei) Epishs symfwnw me to skeptiko sou oti den exei xrwma alla ayto einai kalos logos gia na kaneis shove ki oxi check(call)
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To check-call (turn) einai to xeirotero nomizw. Bet-fold h bet-call einai kalytera. Sto river einai periergh h katastash logw stacks ki ayto logw tou turn gay bet alla kai tou mikrou flop cbet. Thelw na pw dyskolo twra na kaneis shove for value ara mallon check-fold. An mporei na bloffarei edw me QJ h ta pio apithana AQ typou float hands tote wp to him PS: Xwris kammia ypopth/eirwnikh klp diathesh alla giati paizeis NL25? PM an protimas.
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fwiw sto 1/2 hu einai winner. Gia to preflop: To A7s me to A7o exoun terastia diafora Me tetoius paiktes prepei na eisai etoimos na kaneis stack off light se 3 bet pots sto flop (den yparxei allo paiksimo me tetoius paiktes - an kaneis float tha kanei 2 barrel klp) kai to A7o apla de sou dinei toso kalo equity se genikes grammes. Mporei loipon theorhtika na einai elaxista isws EV+ to call preflop alla dedomenou oti tha prepei na paikseis post flop megala pot me elaxisto pleonekthma to variance xtypaei ta ypsh (hello 10BI downswing) Kalyterh idea me kapoion fanatiko 3bettor pou den kanei fold se 4 bets einai na kaneis min raise h kai limp kai to A7o einai ena kalo hand gi'ayto to paiksimo.
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Gouster έγραψε: Oi perissoteroi ap'aytous exoun mathei oti prepei na kanoun light 3bet se kapoio forum h se training sites alla meta to flop paizoun super predictable px otan exoun tous assous se drawy flop kanoun megalo cbet alloiws kanoun kapoio mikro sa na sou len "kanw bet-fold twra" kai polla alla tetoia. Nomizw oti den kanw sxedon pote fold me thesh kai eite kanw light 4bet me oti junk exw eite kanw call kai paizw megala pot me kapoion pou paizei straightforward post flop ki exei polarised range logw preflop (synithws) Sto telos me theoroun entelws donk pou den kanei pote fold kai to 3-bet range tous ginetai opws theloume na einai Fysika ola ayta pou lew den prokeitai na doulepsoun pote apenanti se kapoion pou kserei ti kanei
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To preflop einai ligo fishy, kalytera fold h kai 4bet. Opws paikthke ti allo ektos apo raise-get it in sto flop?
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ugotthelooks έγραψε: :ohmy:
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A nai auto pou ksxasa na tonisw einai oti: An eisai poly kalos tote yparxoun polla xrhmata kai tha yparxoun gia poly kairo - mallon To thema einai pws ftaneis ekei an ksekinas twra kai xwris na yparxei kapoia eggyhsh. px otan pernas sto Pan/mio ksereis oti an doulepseis arketa tha pareis to ptyxio sou kai me sxetika kalo vathmo. Sto poker akoma ki an doulepseis poly sklhra den yparxei kammia eggyhsh oti tha gineis poly kalos Pantws an kapoios thelei na to kynhghsei as to kanei kai na mhn akouei htikologies ths dekaras apo loser fish. Nomizw mia kalh idea -xwris na eimai sigouros- einai to staking. Exontas to prostheto bankroll kai me kalo game selection mporei kaneis na epitaxynei thn kerdoforia tou (h na xasei ta lefta tou staker)
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foustouki έγραψε: An: Eisai 20kati ki exeis arketh eyfia, oreksh gia douleia, epimonh gia na kerdiseis akoma kai sto NL200 alla as poume oti eisai akoma sto ksekinhma, tote: sky is the limit! sto ti mporeis na kaneis me epityxia sth zwh sou. To kserw akougetai poly genikologo alla to kalo tou shmerinou 20rh einai oti exei apeirh plhroforhsh sth diathesh tou. px enas symfoithths mou oxi idiaitera kalos sth sxolh, to synanthsa tyxaia mesw allwn filwn, kapoia xronia meta: "Patouse koumpakia" se kapoia investment bank sto City tou Londinou kai to prwto tou bonus htan konta sto miso ekatomyrio. Twra den kserei kan ti exei. Ena paradeigma apla. Ta lefta den einai to pan.