facing check / raise sto river, call i fold ?

[feorlikE]

Einai poli arxi sto tournoua. Se genikes grammes isos na min ekana call to shove sto river se tetoio stage alla to play tou antipalou den mou evgaze noima kai to opr den ton evriske (akoma k me copy paste den evgaze tpt)kai den eixa kanena info gia ton paixti.

Call i fold edw pera? (opoiadhpote simvouli sto diko mou play einai euprosdekti , an vrisketai oti ekana kapoio lathos , alla kirios me noiazei i apofasi sto river pou eixa na parw )

PokerStars Game #43991173123: Tournament #311010583, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/05/12 22:25:45 EET [2010/05/12 15:25:45 ET]

Table '311010583 114' 9-max Seat #2 is the button

Seat 1: man0966 (2135 in chips)

Seat 2: homs777 (2845 in chips)

Seat 3: will_b54 (2520 in chips)

Seat 4: Innervoicess (4350 in chips)

Seat 5: backwar9 (2970 in chips)

Seat 6: jabip840 (2890 in chips)

Seat 7: K1sk4rcs1 (2910 in chips)

Seat 8: trelodonk (4290 in chips)

Seat 9: charmosito (3790 in chips)

will_b54: posts small blind 15

Innervoicess: posts big blind 30

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to trelodonk [Kc Ad]

backwar9: folds

jabip840: folds

K1sk4rcs1: folds

trelodonk: raises 60 to 90

charmosito: folds

man0966: folds

homs777: folds

will_b54: calls 75

Innervoicess: folds

*** FLOP *** [3d Jd Ac]

will_b54: checks

trelodonk: bets 120

will_b54: calls 120

*** TURN *** [3d Jd Ac] [5c]

will_b54: checks

trelodonk: bets 330

will_b54: calls 330

*** RIVER *** [3d Jd Ac 5c] [5s]

will_b54: checks

trelodonk: bets 670

will_b54: raises 1310 to 1980 and is all-in

trelodonk: ???

[safesteps]

Το μόνο που φαίνεται λογικό στο range του για τέτοιο play (αν δεν είναι μια κακή μπλόφα δηλαδή) είναι το 5dxd

[GreenBolt14]

Sthn periptwsh poy den einai apla ena all in gia steal apo donk player, suited connectors,to 5d6d, h kalytera 5dXd einai pithano...gia mena einai dyskolo alla mallon ortho fold.

[afterimage]

ektos tou oti kanei represent liga pramata, nomizw ligoi akolouthoun ayto to line gia ayta sto 11$ tour, +ta busted draws,+ta pot odds, I CALL kai de noiwthw asxhma an xanw edw

[john4kos8]

KATI SE SUITED CONECTORS OPOS EIPE O SAFE 5dxd min apoklieis aj,aq.akoma kai set.pithanon omos na ekane slow play aj.to set oxi kai toso gti ipirxan polla draws.eine apo tis partides p pragmatika an eixes info tha eixes pio xekathari eikona.

[GreenBolt14]

me ena dynatotero bet sto turn, pisteyete oti tha epairne kapoia parapanw info?

[feorlikE]

i sunexeia tou hand

trelodonk: calls 1310

*** SHOW DOWN ***

will_b54: shows [Td 5d] (three of a kind, Fives)

trelodonk: shows [Kc Ad] (two pair, Aces and Fives)

will_b54 collected 5070 from pot

ekana me megali diskolia to call kai ksodevontas kamposo time, sto turn meta ta 2 check call tou eimai pepeismenos oti exw to kalitero xeri ( den exei set i 2pairs ) kai apla pistepsa oti itan poli pithano na kanei mia poli kali mplofa.

An eixa stoixeia gia ton paixti logika tha epaiza diaforetika. Parolo pou anekampsa sto tour meta apo auto to hand , me etroge i aporia an eixa parei tin sosti apofasi, opote tha ithela kamia apopsi akoma apo opoion exei diathesi

[ineverfold]

FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD