Hand απο MTT

[Againstodds]

Seat 1: lucky anton (10,530 in chips)

Seat 2: _SuperPierre (4,573 in chips)

Seat 3: pub o biroot (2,100 in chips)

Seat 4: claudav (432 in chips)

Seat 5: kBagasakos (6,553 in chips)

Seat 6: GrandDuc1 (1,760 in chips)

Seat 7: Against-Odds (25,982 in chips)

Seat 8: x marynn (9,930 in chips)

Seat 9: MJL47 (4,890 in chips)

Seat 10: HaSTRMaN_92 (7,141 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS

x marynn posts blind (100), MJL47 posts blind (200).

PRE-FLOP

HaSTRMaN_92 folds, lucky anton folds, _SuperPierre folds, pub o biroot raises to 400, claudav folds, kBagasakos folds, GrandDuc1 calls 400, Against-Odds calls 400, x marynn calls 400, MJL47 calls 400.

FLOP [board cards: 9S,8S,5S ]

x marynn checks, MJL47 checks, pub o biroot checks, GrandDuc1 checks, Against-Odds bets 1,400, x marynn calls 1,400, MJL47 calls 1,400, pub o biroot folds, GrandDuc1 folds.

TURN [board cards: 9S,8S,5S,9H ]

x marynn checks, MJL47 checks, Against-Odds checks.

RIVER [board cards: 9S,8S,5S,9H,QD ]

x marynn checks, MJL47 checks, Against-Odds checks.

SHOWDOWN

x marynn shows [ 2D,AS ]

MJL47 mucks cards [ KS,6H ]

Against-Odds shows [ 7D,6D ]

Against-Odds wins 6,200.

Ειναι ενα hand που με απασχολησε αρκετα, γιατι δεν θεωρω οτι εβγαλα max value. Στο τραπεζι εχω αρκετα tight image, showdown JJ+ και το μεγεθος του stack μου οφειλεται σε πολλα καλα χερια που εχω παρει στην αρχικη φαση του τουρ(Aν δεν κανω λαθος ημουν chipleader εκεινη την χρονικη στιγμη). Απο τους αντιπαλους μου ο x marynn ειναι αρκετα tight k αυτος κ ο MJL47 ειναι Loose passive. Bet στο river ή στο turn και ποσο?

[greggr]

To kleidi tou xeriou einai oti exeis position.

Egw mallon tha ekana shove sto turn, wste na mhn dwsw odds se kapoion me 1 mpastouni na me kanei outdraw, giati to pot exei megalwsei poly se sxesh me to effective stack mou.

An omws thewrhsoume oti kanoume check to turn, sto river o kathenas apo tous dyo tous exei kanei check dyo fores, pragma pou se stakes mikrotera apo MTT twn 100$ 99% DEN einai pagida. Ara sto river milame gia value bet se kapoious pou DEN exoun to 9 h JT, poso mallon xrwma. Opote skepsou me posa tha ekanes call esy me AA p.x. kai an skeftoume oti o mesos paixths einai mallon pio loose, tosa tha ekane call kai me Qx h TT

[empags]

fold pre

[LUADARKO]

empags έγραψε:

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fold pre

1on auti den einai apantisi gia kati pou se rwtaei enas allos.

2on an kaneis "fold pre" me tetoio stack,position,kai me alla tosa psarakia pou exoune mpei sto kioupi(pot) den prokeitai pote na ftaseis psila se ena tournoua,dioti den sou dinontai suxna tetoies eukairies.

oso gia to hand.2 lines vlepw.

1)raise to turn me 3/4 pot,kai efoson chekaroune pali sto river,tote ena value bet miso pot tha itane oti prepei.

2)ean fovomaste na min mas ta gurisei kapoios sto turn,k kanoume call sta tyfla,tote check turn k sigoura bet river meta apo tetoio action.apla me auto ton tropo einai lathos oti tous afhnoume na kinigisoune ta draw tous for free,sun oti xanoume value sto turn.apla pame ligo pio safe sto hand.

[empags]

LUADARKO έγραψε:

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empags έγραψε:

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fold pre

1on auti den einai apantisi gia kati pou se rwtaei enas allos.

2on an kaneis "fold pre" me tetoio stack,position,kai me alla tosa psarakia pou exoune mpei sto kioupi(pot) den prokeitai pote na ftaseis psila se ena tournoua,dioti den sou dinontai suxna tetoies eukairies.

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1on. sorry sir

2on. o arxikos raiser exei 10bbs. o caller akoma ligotera. mporeis na mas ekshghseis giati prepei na paizoume SCs me ayta ta stacks gia na pame pshla se ena tournoua?

[LUADARKO]

des ta stacks sto button k sta blinds k tha katalaveis.

[empags]

LUADARKO έγραψε:

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des ta stacks sto button k sta blinds k tha katalaveis.

entaksei, katalaba.

[Ntavelis]

LUADARKO έγραψε:

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oso gia to hand.2 lines vlepw.

1)raise to turn me 3/4 pot,kai efoson chekaroune pali sto river,tote ena value bet miso pot tha itane oti prepei.

2)ean fovomaste na min mas ta gurisei kapoios sto turn,k kanoume call sta tyfla,tote check turn k sigoura bet river meta apo tetoio action.apla me auto ton tropo einai lathos oti tous afhnoume na kinigisoune ta draw tous for free,sun oti xanoume value sto turn.apla pame ligo pio safe sto hand.

Θα συμφωνήσω και με τα δύο lines αλλά περισσότερο με το 1ο.

Έχεις πολύ καλό position και νομίζω ότι με ακόμα ένα ακόμα bet στο turn θα σου έδινε την σιγουριά ότι παίζεις ενάντια σε draws.

[Againstodds]

Ευχαριστω για τις απαντησεις και τεινω να συμφωνησω με το 1ο Line toy Lua οτι μαλλον θελει bet το turn να παρω value & info

[vas]

8a simfnoniso kai egw me ton lua.

alla apo tin stigmi poy ekanes check sto turn,sto river epivalotan ena value bet mikroterou tou misou pot.

[foustouki]

bet flop,bet turn και shove river σε τετοιες περιπτωσεις αν οι αντιπαλοι σου κανουν check-check 2 φορες και εννοειται δεν βγει καποια scare card turn/river.