2000 NL.TO RERAISE STO TURN EHI LOGIKH?

[SWEDENFISH]

***** Hand History for Game 6831308707 *****

0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Fri Feb 29 13:10:48 EST 2008

Table Table 128057 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button

Total number of players : 6

Seat 1: ILIOS72 ( $2450)

Seat 2: vbm1979 ( $2005.50)

Seat 3: Stronghold ( $404)

Seat 4: Dende_74 ( $7988.80)

Seat 5: InFocus491 ( $1696)

Seat 6: hugo1000 ( $4916)

hugo1000 posts small blind (10)

ILIOS72 posts big blind (20)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to ILIOS72 [ Kd, 8d ]

vbm1979 folds

Stronghold calls (20)

Dende_74 folds

InFocus491 folds

hugo1000 calls (10)

ILIOS72 checks

** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6d, 4d, 8s ]

hugo1000 bets (55)

ILIOS72 raises (200) to 200

Stronghold calls (200)

hugo1000 calls (145)

** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qh ]

hugo1000 checks

ILIOS72 checks

Stronghold bets (184)

Stronghold is all-In.

hugo1000 calls (184)

ILIOS72 raises (368) to 368

hugo1000 folds

** Dealing River ** : [ Ks ]

Creating Main Pot with $1209 with Stronghold

** Summary **

Main Pot: $1209 | Rake: $3

Board: [ 6d 4d 8s Qh Ks ]

ILIOS72 balance $3255, bet $588, collected $1393, net +$805 [ Kd 8d ] [ two pairs, Kings and Eights -- Kd,Ks,Qh,8d,8s ]

vbm1979 balance $2005.50, didn't bet (folded)

Stronghold balance $0, lost $404 [ 3s 5s ] [ high card King -- Ks,Qh,8s,6d,5s ]

Dende_74 balance $7988.80, didn't bet (folded)

InFocus491 balance $1696, didn't bet (folded)

hugo1000 balance $4512, lost $404 (folded)

[w0undy]

Apenanti se enan shortstack paikth poy kanei all-in, to call me mia epafh, kapoio draw 'h akoma kai A hi, einai arketa pithano otan prepei na kanoyme call $184 me to pot na einai $840 (proswpika bebaia pisteyw oti einai afeles to call me fyllo katw toy metrioy sto turn eidikotera otan enas paikths poy exei kanei megalo re-raise sto flop milaei meta apo emas). Otan omws dexomaste re-raise sth synexeia apo paikth me megalo stack o opoios exei hdh deijei isxy, eimaste anagkasmenoi na petajoyme to metrio fyllo mas. Opote nomizw pws to re-raise exei nohma afoy, "agorazoyme" plhroforia gia to xeri toy antipaloy. An as poyme ekane call kai sto river den ebgaine K 'h kapoio diamantaki nomizw pws se ena dynato bet pithanotata tha ekanes fold.

Ayto poy me problhmatizei einai to min-raise na soy pw thn alitheia. O typos exei hdh balei $406 kai to pot jepernaei ta $1200 opote den jerw poso pithano einai to fold me raise ayths ths tajhs. Pantws o tropos poy to epaijes deixnei dynato xeri opwsdhpote kai nomizw pws ton anagkases na petajei straight draw 'h flush draw me xamhla fylla 'h isws kai kapoio xamhlo zeygos. Afoy an syndiasoyme to aplo call pre-flop, to bet sto flop kai to aplo call sto turn meta to all-in toy alloy paikth nomizw pws spania tha doyme Q sto xeri toy.

En katakleidi, pisteyw pws to re-raise exei nohma afoy diwxnei enan paikth poy khnygaei kati kai exei parallhla kapoia xamhlh epafh opws hands toy typoy 8*,4*,6* opoy *=7,5 alla apo thn allh ta pot odds einai 0,15 kai ta 6 outs poy exei me tetoia xeria toy dinoyn odds 0,13 opote kinoymaste sta oria, kati poy nomizw tha mporoyses na eixes apofygei me ena re-raise poy tha aggizei ta $300 to opoio thewrw arketa logiko bash twn 14 outs poy exeis kai toy megethoys toy pot. Pantws enas kalos paikths nomizw pws kanei fold me tetoia xeria giati peran ths sygkrishs odds kai pot odds mpainei kai sth diadikasia na skeftei kata poso ginetai pot commited otan exei balei sto pot ~$600. Alla giati na diakindinepseis na dextheis call me xeria tetoioy typoy kai me ena river 4,5,6,7,Q,A oxi karo (poy exei pithanothtes na emfanistei 37%) na psaxnesai?

[SWEDENFISH]

OTAN IPARHI SIDE POT TO FOLDING EQUITY GINETE MIDEN.

ARA TI DINAMH PREPI NS EHI TO FILO MOU E ?

EPIPLEON TO THEMA TON PLIROFORION POY EGRAPSES INE OLA SOSTA.

[cip1974]

Το πιο πιθανό να είχε overcards ή second-third pair.Εαν είχε flash draw είνε τουλάχιστον αφελές να κάνει fold ,αφού το pot του δίνει τα odds για call.

[w0undy]

Dld an katalaba kala, kaneis re-raise gia na deis an tha kanei call 'h re-re-raise apla kai den perimeneis fold ef'oswn to folding equity einai mhden se tetoies periptwseis.

An loipon allajoyme to river kai baloyme kati poy den se symfairei opws 4,5,6,7 poy dinei pithano set 'h straight me ena fyllo sto xeri as poyme (ennoeitai pws thewroyme oti exei kanei call sto re-raise soy sto turn). Pws paizeis se kathe periptwsh paixnidioy toy antipaloy apo check-raise mexri raise 100% pot ? Ennoeitai pws rwtaw apla gia na employtisw tis dikes moy gnwseis kai oxi gia na thesw tis dikes soy ypo amfisbhsh file Hlie, afoy tha htan tragelafiko na amfisbhtw kapoion poy exw symboyleytei mesa apo ta video toy poy blepw kai janablepw.

Opws kai gia akribws ton idio logo egrapsa to prwto reply, gia na moy peis poies apo tis skepseis moy einai swstes kai poies oxi.

[SWEDENFISH]

AN MOU KANI RAISE ,EHO FIGI GIATI EHI THN KENTA.

AN KANI CALL ZORIZOUN TA PRAMATA DEN KSERO POU IME.ALA MALON IME KALOS.

AN DEN ANIKSI KARO KAI HTIPISI STO RIVER EHO HASI SIGOURA.

TO RERAISE INE KAI VALUE BET EPISIS AN KINIGAI KENTA KAI EXI MIKROTERI EPAFI APO TO 8,ITE EHI EPAFI KAI KINIGAI KAI AFTOS TO HROMA.

TOTA THA METROUSE OUTS KAI THA EKANE CALL ENO DEN THA IHE OUTE 8%!!!!

ZOUMERI PARTIDA GIATI EHI POLA PITHANA FILA POU PREPI NA TON VALIS.