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koskosmo έγραψε: to postara kai sto forum enos training site,enas pro mou apantise to eksis: "I think I would take a flop in position here with cards that flop very well. You could raise his c-bet if you think he c-bets light and it's a much smaller bet to do it when you don't 3 bet pre. apla skeftika pos to check raise se auti tin periptosi deixnei dinami kai episis pos exei poli air sto range pou kanei pot bet.to thema tis thesis prospatho akoma na do pos tha leitourgouse(oxi mono se auti tin periptosi alla genikotera.)as ipothesoume pos itan o idios paixtis small blind kai ekane to idio bet preflop.ego antidrao me ton idio tropo kai kano mini 3bet.entaxei bebaia exei alli dinamiki otan paizeis sb vs bb. alla ipotheto pos den sovarei.an kanei lead bet pleon kano fold??an kanei check kano cbet kai fold sto shove tou?dose mou kapoia lines se auti tin periptosi

griffith έγραψε: anoige polles fores kai meta ekane to typical cbet kai sinithos eperne to pot,nomiza pes me to check pou kano sto flop tou deixno adinamia opote mporei na pontarei me polla filla gia na parei to pot(kai me air).otan kano raise allin thelo na tou deikso dinami(aa,kk,qq) i kati telospanton pio dinato ap to 88 pou krataei.me tin idia logiki tha me ekane call kai me 66 55 ktl.to mono pou skeftomai einai pos eixa poli kalo stack gia na kano tetoies alximies.

griffith έγραψε:

griffith έγραψε: 1)kano represent big pair kai eskemena kano mikro 3bet,epipleon den thelo na mou kostisei akriba i apofasi mou na paikso etsi to xeri.an kanei reraise thelo na exo tis mikroteres apoleies. 2)se auto den simfono,itan poli aggresive preflop anoigontas polles fores apo tetoies theseis alla den pisteuo pos to 88 tha to shovare apenanti se omoio kai big stack. 3)en merei exeis dikio alla ithela na kano na fanei pos paizo ena tricky play diladi na deikso adinamia me check kai na kano raise an pontare.megalo rolo epekse bebaia to bet pou ekane to opoio den me epeise katholou.xoris na eimai katholou sigouros pisteuo pos an kratouse q tha ekane mikrotero pontarisma. 4)pisteuo pos tha ekane auto to pontarisma me megalo range,opos fanike tha to ekane me kathe middle kai small pair,episis me draws kai den apokleio to range tou na exei kapoio air mesa.logo preflop action afairo ap to range tou qq+ ara, kai pali xoris na eimai sigouros(gi auto postara eksalou), to shove pou kano mporei na min einai poli asximo.

Full Tilt Poker Game #24371147044: $7,500 Guarantee (188388373), Table 66 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 09:46:34 ET - 2010/10/02 Seat 1: euraba (3,580) Seat 2: frank dsp force (7,300) Seat 3: whosgatdherb (1,580) Seat 4: The_Hippo4 (2,330) Seat 5: CHASE52OUTS (10,650) Seat 6: MuDDYBuTT1 (1,600) Seat 8: I Understand U (5,000) Seat 9: arvan1985 (10,863) I Understand U posts the small blind of 100 arvan1985 posts the big blind of 200 The button is in seat #7 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to arvan1985 [8h 7h] euraba folds SuckHer sits down frank dsp force has 15 seconds left to act frank dsp force has timed out frank dsp force folds frank dsp force is sitting out whosgatdherb folds The_Hippo4 folds CHASE52OUTS raises to 600 MuDDYBuTT1 folds I Understand U folds arvan1985 has 15 seconds left to act arvan1985 raises to 1,466 frank dsp force has returned CHASE52OUTS calls 866 *** FLOP *** [Qc 5d 7d] arvan1985 checks CHASE52OUTS bets 3,032 arvan1985 has 15 seconds left to act arvan1985 has requested TIME arvan1985 raises to 9,397, and is all in CHASE52OUTS calls 6,152, and is all in arvan1985 shows [8h 7h] CHASE52OUTS shows [8d 8c] Uncalled bet of 213 returned to arvan1985 *** TURN *** [Qc 5d 7d] [Ks] *** RIVER *** [Qc 5d 7d Ks] [Qd] arvan1985 shows two pair, Queens and Sevens CHASE52OUTS shows two pair, Queens and Eights CHASE52OUTS wins the pot (21,400) with two pair, Queens and Eights *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 21,400 | Rake 0 Board: [Qc 5d 7d Ks Qd] Seat 1: euraba didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: frank dsp force didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: whosgatdherb didn't bet (folded) Seat 4: The_Hippo4 didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: CHASE52OUTS showed [8d 8c] and won (21,400) with two pair, Queens and Eights Seat 6: MuDDYBuTT1 didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: I Understand U (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: arvan1985 (big blind) showed [8h 7h] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sevens opos blepete exo ena kalo stack kai eimaste konta stis pliromes omos o sigkekrimenos einai aggresive kai theoro pos to pot bet pou kanei exei poli aera mesa.thelo gnomes.

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foustouki έγραψε: μαλλον ετσι ειναι οπως τα λες.το πρωτο δεν ηταν λαθος και το δευτερο μπορουσα να το αποφυγω.

poker gr 11 buy in kai exoume meinei 3 apo 457. stacks:ego peripou 650000 oi alloi apo 300000 peripou. eimai dealer kai ta blinds einai 5000-10000 kratao AQo kai anebazo sta 25000,reraise ap to small blind sta 65000,fold o tritos kai ego reraise sta 200000,kanei allin.entaxei profanos ekana call alla to thema einai pos antidrao sto 3bet pou kanei.nomizo pos fold den iparxei.o logos einai pos pleon to paixnidi eixe ginei poli aggresive kai apo tous 3.o sigkekrimenos antipalos otan itan sb kai go buton mou ekane 3bet peripou 20-25%.me to AQo pos paizo edo??eixe AK. ligo argotera oi markes mou einai 350000,eimai big blind kai to sb(autos pou ekane fold prin) pou eixe 300000 anebazei sta 50000(???).o sigkekrimenos itan o pio epithetikos ap tous 3 kai panta anebaze apo sb.stis 2 fores pou tou ekana 3bet ta petakse.tora kratao K9o kai kano allin,kanei call kai exei QQ,etsi exasa sto tournoua. meta to telos to tournoua problimatistika mipos to psilokarfosa alla den ksero giauto to postaro.

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#Game No : 9683938602 ***** Hand History for Game 9683938602 ***** NL Texas Hold'em $6 USD Buy-in Trny: 55017436 Level: 2 Blinds(30/60) - Thursday, September 30, 15:56:10 EDT 2010 Table $3K Gtd Regular (2026025) Table #29 (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 10/10 Seat 8: Coulabdoul ( 2,640 ) Seat 6: Gigi2439 ( 4,100 ) Seat 7: OnlyLM333 ( 2,720 ) Seat 2: PowerHans666 ( 6,800 ) Seat 3: Stiener604 ( 2,000 ) Seat 4: arvan1985 ( 2,900 ) Seat 9: billybolton ( 5,980 ) Seat 10: holz13 ( 2,740 ) Seat 5: ismet911 ( 3,000 ) Seat 1: kutinahc ( 3,120 ) Trny: 55017436 Level: 2 Blinds(30/60) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to arvan1985 [ 6c 6d ] ismet911 folds Gigi2439 calls [60] OnlyLM333 folds Coulabdoul folds billybolton calls [60] holz13 folds kutinahc calls [60] PowerHans666 folds Stiener604 calls [30] arvan1985 checks ** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 6s, Jc ] Stiener604 checks arvan1985 checks Gigi2439 checks billybolton bets [225] kutinahc folds Stiener604 folds arvan1985 calls [225] Gigi2439 calls [225] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ] arvan1985 checks Gigi2439 bets [975] billybolton calls [975] arvan1985 raises [2,040] Gigi2439 calls [1,065] billybolton calls [1,065] ** Dealing River ** [ 4s ] arvan1985 is all-In [575] Gigi2439 calls [575] billybolton is all-In [3,655] Gigi2439 is all-In [1,200] arvan1985 shows [ 6c, 6d ]a full house, Sixes full of Jacks. Gigi2439 shows [ 9h, Jd ]a full house, Jacks full of Nines. billybolton shows [ 7s, As ]a flush, Ace high. billybolton wins 1,880 chips from the side pot 2 with a flush, Ace high. Gigi2439 wins 2,400 chips from the side pot 1 with a full house, Jacks full of Nines. Gigi2439 wins 8,820 chips from the main pot with a full house, Jacks full of Nines. Player arvan1985 finished in 539. enas oraios tropos na xaneis....kai o kaliteros apo kato.. #Game No : 9682776223 ***** Hand History for Game 9682776223 ***** NL Texas Hold'em $11 USD Buy-in Trny: 55009118 Level: 2 Blinds(30/60) - Thursday, September 30, 10:31:43 EDT 2010 Table Regular (2025222) Table #3 (Real Money) Seat 10 is the button Total number of players : 9/10 Seat 6: Giesman ( 4,540 ) Seat 10: IKENIE ( 3,520 ) Seat 3: LeckerWurst ( 2,940 ) Seat 9: akz_tpf ( 1,040 ) Seat 1: arvan1985 ( 2,680 ) Seat 7: cabs2000 ( 2,910 ) Seat 2: luckystar996 ( 4,520 ) Seat 8: oleoterrace ( 2,560 ) Seat 4: unerio ( 2,480 ) Trny: 55009118 Level: 2 Blinds(30/60) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to arvan1985 [ As 8d ] LeckerWurst folds unerio folds Giesman folds cabs2000 calls [60] oleoterrace folds akz_tpf folds IKENIE folds arvan1985 calls [30] luckystar996 checks ** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, Ad, Jd ] arvan1985 checks luckystar996 checks cabs2000 checks ** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ] arvan1985 bets [90] luckystar996 folds cabs2000 calls [90] ** Dealing River ** [ Kd ] arvan1985 bets [180] cabs2000 is all-In [2,760] arvan1985 is all-In [2,350] arvan1985 shows [ As, 8d ]a full house, Aces full of Eights. cabs2000 shows [ Qd, Td ]royal flush. cabs2000 wins 230 chips from the side pot 1 with a royal flush. cabs2000 wins 5,420 chips from the main pot with a royal flush. Player arvan1985 finished in 110.

#Game No : 9684320203 ***** Hand History for Game 9684320203 ***** NL Texas Hold'em $3 USD Buy-in Trny: 55018233 Level: 6 Blinds(200/400) - Thursday, September 30, 17:29:47 EDT 2010 Table $2.5K Gtd Rebuy (2026080) Table #22 (Real Money) Seat 10 is the button Total number of players : 10/10 Seat 3: Felgi1 ( 10,767 ) Seat 10: Gusek___ ( 9,796 ) Seat 1: Jarkko9303 ( 2,298 ) Seat 8: afu1958 ( 8,696 ) Seat 7: arvan1985 ( 20,111 ) Seat 2: furry24 ( 15,042 ) Seat 6: iHunteryou ( 16,642 ) Seat 9: johannes291 ( 11,948 ) Seat 5: nikola109 ( 4,371 ) Seat 4: priorafox ( 40,720 ) Trny: 55018233 Level: 6 Blinds(200/400) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to arvan1985 [ Ad Qs ] Felgi1 folds priorafox folds nikola109 folds iHunteryou folds arvan1985 raises [1,100] afu1958 folds johannes291 calls [1,100] Gusek___ folds Jarkko9303 is all-In [2,098] furry24 calls [1,898] arvan1985 is all-In [19,011] johannes291 is all-In [10,848] furry24 folds ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 2c, 7s ] ** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ] ** Dealing River ** [ 9s ] arvan1985 shows [ Ad, Qs ]a pair of Tens. johannes291 shows [ As, 6s ]a flush, Ace high. Jarkko9303 shows [ 8c, 9d ]two pairs, Tens and Nines. arvan1985 wins 8,163 chips from the side pot 2 with a pair of Tens. johannes291 wins 19,300 chips from the side pot 1 with a flush, Ace high. johannes291 wins 9,192 chips from the main pot with a flush, Ace high. Player Jarkko9303 finished in 206. me ti psixologia kanei call??einai dinaton??paizei 2 ores,exei metrio stack kai kanei tetoio call?????

proto xeri: tournoua 11$ fulltilt super stack(5000) blinds 100-200 to stack mou 8900 eimai big blind me 7d6d.2 limpers kai to small blind simplironei.pot:800 ego kano check flop: 7s Qd 3d. o protos limper check o 2os(super aggresive) bet 450,call to sb kai ego raise sta 1250,call o protos limper kai fold oi alloi 2. pot:4200 turn: Ks ego bet 2000 kai call o allos. river:Qc check ego,check kai autos? ti apopsi exete gia to raise sto flop?gia to turn? blepontas ksana tin partida pisteuo pos to bet sto turn itan lathos.ti xeri pisteuete pos kratouse?to stack tou itan diplasio tou dikou mou kai itan sxetika tight. 2o xeri,ligo argotera sto idio tournoua blinds 100-200,to stack mou giro stis 6000 kai eimai sxetika late position).kratao AKo o utg(o proigoumenos super aggresive) kanei raise sta 500,call kapoios 2 theseis pio meta kai oloi paso mexri emena.afou kseroume pos o utg anoigei me megalo range apo opoiadipote thesi poio einai to kalitero paiksimo pou mporo na kano edo??episis to range tou caller den nomizo na mas endiaferei,etsi den einai? ego shovara(30 blinds) kai o utg fold,omos call o allos.....

foustouki έγραψε: opoios paizei online prepei na bgalei ap to mialo tou tetoiou eidous theories,ap tin alli omos min trelathoume teleios,i dinami ton arithmon isxiei kai epeidi akribos einai toso megali kai dinei tosa allothi pote kai kanenas den mporei na nai sigouros gia to pos mporei na ginei ekmetaleusi mias tetoias dinamis apo terasties epixeiriseis.panta prepei na kratas mia pisini eidika otan milame gia diadiktio kai terastia posa.emena pleon den epireazoun to paixnidi mou tetoies skepseis alla apolitos den eimai.an ginontai bromies se auton ton xoro tote sigoura oute esi oute ego mporoume na apodeiksoume kati,poso mallon me epixeirimata pou einai profani.

edo to pio simantiko street einai to turn.edo loipon imo to river tha einai fillo pou perisoteres fores tha mas fobisei.emena se tetoies katastaseis mou aresei na epixeiro na teleioso tin partida. alienhack:to limping range pou anafereis einai ena kommati apo to sinolo .stin ousia to range enos metriou utg limper periexei isos to 60% ton fillon.se tetoio flop tha mporousan na kanoun call polla filla.edo gia mena pontareis to turn kai pithanotata akolouthoun filla pou tha ekanan check behind,episis akolouthei to range pou aneferes(giati na min pontaroume emeis protoi arage?) kai tros raise apo idi ftiagmena filla i telos panton filla pou mallon se kerdizoun.me basi auto to line tha ekana check to river me skopo mallon to call se kapoio bet tou.

geoponos έγραψε: nai einai alitheia pos ta overpairs den einai poli pithana blepontas tis kiniseis tou se flop-turn-river.tha mporouse na krataei omos kati se kj,qj?mallon.alla tora pou to ksanaskeftomai exei arketi mplofa mesa.

gia mena prepei na pontareis to turn,ap tin stigmi pou kaneis check to turn pas ligo sta tifla.diladi autos kanei call sto flop me ti??imo sto flop mporei na krataei ta panta.sto turn omos ksekatharizei ligo i katastasi an pontareis.me to check tou dineis to dikaioma na pontarei oti ki an krataei.sto river episis isxiei to idio.opote pigainontas ligo sta tifla den ksero an einai call i fold to river.

kasspav έγραψε: w0t?? Mh mperdeyesai file mou Kapoios pou postarei partida einai epeidh akrivws zhtaei sxoliasmo, dioti o idios thelei na akousei apopseis gia to hand pou epaixe. Ektos an einai vevaia apla klapsimatias/or brageras (nai yparxoun polloi sto forum mas..) Exeis to idio akrivws dikaiwma me ton kathena na sxoliazeis se opoio thread nomizeis oti exeis na prosfereis thn apopsh sou. Kai don't worry gia thn poiothta twn posts sou..den prokeitai na rixeis kai idiaitera to epipedo tou foroum imo..[/quote:2xxl29zy] Εσενα johnny αν σου σχολιασει ο safesteps, cfr, giorgio, melanholy κτλ κτλ, ειναι το ίδιο με το να σχολιάσει ενας random, break even στην καλύτερη, παίχτης? Καθε ανάλυση που δινετε εχει και την βερύτητα των αποτελεσμάτων του καθενος, δεν συμφωνείς? Και να σημειωθεί ότι δεν ειπα καν αν πρεπει ή δεν πρεπει να σχολιαζει, φορουμ ειναι εννοειται θα σχολιάσει. Απλά θελω να ξέρω το επιπεδο του καθενος και τον τρόπο σκέψης, κακό είναι??? Αν δεν θέλει κάποιος να το αναφέρει σεβαστό...[/quote:2xxl29zy] profanos exei megaliteri baritita na sou sxoliasei kapoios kalos paixtis alla den einai anagki na ferneis se diskoli thesi kapoion pou sxoliazei, me tetoiou tipou erotiseis"poio einai to nickname sou" ktl.kathe sxolio mi eironiko kalo tha sou kanei opos kai olous pou ta diabazoun allios tha eprepe na stelneis tis partides se 10 atoma me pm.akoma kai enas random paixtis opos les mporei na sou pei kati kai na se problimatisei se ena bathmo nomizo.

14ος στο main event molis diplasiase me aa vs qq.gl gl

θα ηθελα να ξεκινησω μια νεα προσπαθεια στα mtt low stakes στα οποια πιστευω πως μπορω να φερω καλα αποτελεσματα.εχω ασχοληθει αρκετα με husng στα οποια ειχα πλεονεκτημα αλλα για πολλους και διαφορους λογους αποφασισα να στραφω στα mtt.τον τελευταιο καιρο επαιξα στην fulltilt καποια μεγαλου buyin tour και σε καποια μπηκα στα λεφτα και εφτασα κοντα και σε πολυ καλα λεφτα.τωρα ομως θελω να ξεκινησω μια οργανωμενη προσπαθεια με σωστη διαχειριση κεφαλαιου,συγκεκριμενο προγραμμα τουρνουα κτλ. εχω διαθεσιμα 1500$.θελω να ξεκινησω με 2500$ και να παιζω σε τουρνουα με average buy in 8-10$. για αυτο τον λογο επιχειρω αυτη την προσπαθεια,να μαζεψω δηλαδη τα υπολοιπα 1000$ με την μορφη staking. τι θα ισχυει: 1)αν δεν μαζευτουν πανω απο 500$ τοτε οτι εχω μαζεψει θα το επιστρεψω αμεσως.αν μαζευτουν 500<ποσο<1000 τοτε θα ριξω το average buy in που εχω προγραμματισει να παιζω.μεγιστο ποσο θα ειναι τα 1000$. 2)τα 1000$ τα σπαω σε κομματια των 25$(ελαχιστο) τα οποια αναλογουν σε 1% του συνολικου κεφαλαιου. 3)οποιαδηποτε στιγμη ο staker μπορει να αποσυρει το κεφαλαιο του(με τα πιθανα κερδη εννοειται) 4)σε περιπτωση κερδων τοτε για τον καθε staker θα αναλογει και ενα ποσοστο 20% επιπλεον.πχ:αν καποιος εχει το 10% δηλαδη 250$ και υπαρχουν συνολικα κερδη 500$ τοτε θα του αναλογουν απο τα κερδη {(0,2*0,1)+0,1)*500=60$ αντι για 50 που θα ηταν κανονικα. 5)σε περιπτωση απωλειας ολου του κεφαλαιου επιστρεφω το 20% των χρηματων που εχουν δωθει(μεγιστο 200$). 6)οι εταιριες που θα παιζω ειναι pokerstars(chchatzop),fulltilt(arvan1985),partypoker(arvan1985),poker gr(arvan1985).θα κανω μια προσεκτικη επιλογη τουρνουα απο καθε εταιρια. 7) στο θεμα της εμπιστοσυνης,ειμαι ενεργο καθημερινο μελος του φορουμ,υπαρχουν και φωτογραφιες στο site(wpt bucharest updates ioannis tsintzos) και επισης ειναι για μενα απ τα πιο σημαντικα θεματα και ειμαι καθετος. οποιος ενδιαφερεται να μου στειλει pm ευχαριστω

emena mou aresei poli to fold edo parolo pou ego tha ekana call.simasia exei pos otan kataligeis se ena simperasma opos auto pou ebgale o kasspav tote na patas to analogo koumpaki.edo pragmati xanei apo polla filla(ego pisteuo pio poli apo megalitero aso i full).episis to river bet pou kanei o antipalos(dedomenon ton stacks) sou afinei perithoria gia fold. oso gia to flop den einai apolita sosto kapoio paiksimo.prepei as poume na iparxei kapoio mix apo plays se tetoies katastaseis me kritirio kirios ton antipalo.stin sigkekrimeni periptosi me dedomeno ta stoixeia pou dinei o kasspav gia ton paixti simfono me to call(pos dinei megalitero value edo).

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tournoua 5$ me rebuys,exei teleiosei i periodos ton rebuy,to tournoua to epaiza mazi me ena filo kai irthame se diskoli thesi stin parakato partida an kai o filos mou epemene pos itan eukolo fold(teino na simfoniso kai go) blinds:50-100 to stack mas peripou 10000 to diko tou ligo parapano. milame se sxetika arxiki thesi kai kratame 88.anebazoume sta 400. liges theseis pio meta raise sta 700 apo enan paixti(den exoume eikona),oloi paso kai meis call ta 300. flop: 4d 8d 9d emeis check, check kai autos(???) turn: Ks emeis bet 1000 call autos. river: Th emeis bet an thimamai kala 2000 me 2500 kai ta girnaei all in. ti kanoume edo?? me basi tis energeies pou kanei preflop-flop-turn-river to all in mallon einai kati pio dinato apo set i allios mplofa. ara afou mas menoun 60 blinds peripou den einai kapos eukolo to paso??ego bebaia sets den exo mathei na petao eukola alla mallon prepei.gia mena olo to zoumi einai to check pou kanei sto flop.apokleietai na afisei apontaristo kapoio overpair(isos mono to AdA) ara periorizetai poli to range tou. erotisi:tha allaze poli i apofasi mas an to raise tou to ekane sto turn? gia mena se auti tin periptosi den mporoume na apofigoume na ta baloume ola kathos pleon to range tou periexei ena fillo pou tairiazei sto paiksimo tou kai preflop kai flop. perimeno sxolia

ekane call me 88

i frasi tou harrighton dark tunnel bluff anaferetai se partides san ki autes: 100$ tour full tilt. eimai stin CO kai kratao ATo.ta blinds einai 20-40 kai exo 2800 chips. oloi paso kai anoigo sta 100.o dealer kanei call(o dealer einai kakos paixtis simfona me to opr).paso ta blinds. flop: K J 4 me 2 spathia.pontaro 120 kai kanei argo call turn 5(oxi spathi). pontaro 350 kai afou perni kai timebank lanei call. river:J(to xroma den bgike) pontaro 800 kai kanei call afou prota pire olo ton xrono popu eixe. erotisi:fanike toso entona pos mplofaro??? to oti xaramisa xoris logo to stack mou to gnorizo.to mialo mou kollise pos einai se draw kai den ithela na tou doso to dikaioma na mplofarei to river exontas xameno draw.

liondani έγραψε: +10000 ...εκτός από τον φίλο σου το αναφέρει και το βιβλίο "Kill Everyone" Θα συμφωνήσω όμως, άσχετα αν το είχα διαβάσει ή όχι, αφού είναι πράγματι παρατηρημένο τελευταία να δοκιμάζουν πολλοί steal από αρχικές θέσεις... (το μόνο που με προβληματίζει είναι απλά η αναφορά για την tight εικόνα του αντιπάλου έως εκείνη την στιγμή)[/quote:34ld4ghe] nai itan tight,sigkritika me tous ipoloipous itan isos o pio tight mazi me mena.