SHMANTIKO HAND PROS SYZHTHSH - SE FINAL TABLE

[vassilis21]

final table se tourney deep stack 172 paiktwn. exoun apomeinei 4.

o 1 pairnei 30% o 2--20% o 3---14% o 4-----9%

eimai big blind kratontas 10 10 exo 262000 chips o chip leader exei 350000 chips kai oi alloi 2 peripou 125000 O KATHENAS

o leader kanei raise 12000 utg se blind 2000/4000. paso oi alloi kai kanw reraise 32000 giati einai enas aggressive leader pou klevei blinds.

kanei call.

flop kc 10c 4d pianw set. kanw raise 20000 se pot 70000 elpizontas na to parei gia block bet kai na kanei raise. i an kanei call na desmeftei se megalo pot.

canei just call. tern 6c (trito spathi)

exo set alla exei katw 3 spathia apenanti ston leader pou mporei na krata otidipote.fovamai ligo to flush alla apofasizo na prostatepso to set mou se periptwsi pou krataei 1 spathi pontarontas 50000 se pot 110000. tote o leader canei all inn!!! kai ego me set 101010 prepei na apofasiso gia ta resta mou pou emeinan kai einai peripou 160000 kai einai akomi perissotera apo ton 3 kai 4 tou tournoua.

TI KANOUME SE TETOIES PERIPTWSEIS? ---MAS DEIXNEI PWS XTYPISE FLUSH ALLA MPOREI KAI NA BLOFAREI H NA KRATA ALLO HAND DUNATO ALLA PIO KATW APO 101010. AKOMA KAI AN KRATA FLUSH EXOUME 10 OUTS GIA FULL I KARE. KANOUME CALL I PASO GIA NA MIN RISKAROUME NA FUGOUME 4 AFOU OI ALLOI 2 EXOUN AKOMA PIO LIGA CHIPS?

(simeiosi: o chip leader parolo pou einai aggressive mexri stigmis edeixe polu dunata hand se ola ta all inn pou epaixe meta to flop)

[mathew ace]

An einai efikto ta stats tou pekti..Kai to Buy in tou tour

[gademis]

kai platforma de vlaptei giati ta deepstack tis ongame einai idiaitera

[LiNkK]

Ta paidia swsta rwtane gia to buy-in tou tournoua alla aneksartita apo auto tha sou pw thn gnwmh mou gia to xeri, xwris auto na shmainei oti einai 100% apla gia na synexistei h kouventa kai na doume k tis gnwmes twn allwn.

Preflop thewrw oti epekses swsta kai den exw na sxoliasw kati.

Sto flop podareis apo brosta 20k mono se pot 70k kai enw topreflop 3bet sou htan 32k!

O tropos pou skefthkes,na kaneis dhladh lead bet gia na pareis reraise den einai asxhmos,eidikotera an sinithizeis na kaneis polla cbets, alla to size tou bet mou fenetai kako.

Me to na pontareis 20k se 70k pot tou dineis polu kala odds na kunigisei flush ktl + mporei na to dei san periergo bet, ektos an ta cbet sou einai pada toso mikra.

Ean eixe sto mualo tou na kanei raise sto flop, pisteuw pws kai 40-50k na podares tha to ekane(allwste an sou ekane reraise tha edixne polu dunamh mias kai exei proigithei diko sou 3bet pre kai cbet sto flop), enw an ithele na kanei aplo call, tou dineis ligotera odds kai kaneis to call pio dyskolo/lathos gia auton.

Sto turn tora podareis apo brosta ksana peripou 1/2 pot alla den exeis skeftei ti tha kaneis ama sta gyrisei all in k etsi eisai se duskolh thesh , xwris na sai sigouros gia to fullo tou adipalou sou, me 160k left kai pot 320k(meta ta resta tou).Diorthwste me an kanw lathos sta noumera.

San prwth skepsh ''Na prostatepsw to fullo mou vs pithano 4flush sto river'' einai ok alla den skefthkes kala to sygkekrimeno street kai fouskwses to pot(sxedon commit yourself) xwris na sai sigouros an thes na pas resta sto turn.

Opws sou eipa sthn arxh tou post sou paratheto mono tis skepseis mou kai thn gnwmh mou.Tha xarw poly na akousw kai gnwmes empeiroterwn paiktwn ka ina ginei suzitish.

PS: sorry gia ta greeklish

[tsikw]

mexri kai to flop m aresei to line..to flop bet an k mikro borei na ekproswpisei fovismeno pair katw apo K air i otidipote

opote ekei borei na se flatarei me any two..

to bet sto turn omws..ektos tou oti se kanei commit, ousiastika prodidei to fullo sou..underbet sto flop k half pot sto turn? nomizw stin xeiroteri periptwsi k mono logo kakou paiksimatos borei na einai AK i AA..apo kei k pera einai mono sets pou einai k to pio logiko k se periptwsi pou o chipleader einai kalos paixtis k exei to flush to katalave k i8ele na se kanei commit ekei..

kata ti gnwmi mou to check den einai i aparaitita swsti kinisi alla otan eisai toso deep k se kaine ta lefta tis 3hs 2hs 8esis boreis apla na kaneis check call sto turn wste na to kratiseis to pot mikro k to river einai mia alli apofasi

[solipsistis]

Θα μας βοηθουσε αν μας ελεγες τι ειχεσ φαει για βραδυ κ αν ηταν ανοιχτη η τηλεοραση σε ποιο καναλι ηταν.Το θεμα ειναι να παρει τη σωστη μακροποθεσμα αποφαση ασχετα με buy in k ιστοριες.Μ αυτο το μπετ στο φλοπ μπλεξανε μαναδες αν κ δε το λες κ αδεξιο.Με τα μουτρα που χει ο τυπος οπως τον περιγραφεις παιζει κ να το χει το χρωμα αν κ το σετ δε το πολυπετας σ αυτες τις περιπτωσεις..μια η αλλη

[nikaimar]

Apo thn arxh deixnei dynamh me raise UTG.

Check se 3Bet deixnei top pair , AKs AKo kai isws AQs.

To check se tetoio flop einai idaniko gia to range tou.

To bet sto turn 50000 den einai mikro kai to pot ftanei tis 160000,

kai to paiksimo sou deixnei oti esy mporei na eixes flush draw sto flop kai me to turn ekanes flush.

Giati na riskarei to stack tou me allin ?

Nomizw oti prepei na kaneis fold (me varia kardia), alla meneis sto tournament me kalo stack.

[mmymmmgfdgfmd]

Δεν νομίζω να πάσαρα ποτέ.

[MAnoloskoufA]

Re file to prwto lathos pou entopizw einai oti opws eipes einai enas aggresive chip leader kai esy tou epitithesai pre-flop..Synexizeis kai pontareis katw apo to miso pot??einai passive o tropos sou..

Sti thesi sou tha ekana monster bet gia na skeftei na agorasei to spathi tou(ean to xreiazetai)..

Meta einai poly tricky to board kai esy den exeis skeftei to all-in tou..

Pantws egw mallon tha foldara afou tha synexiza na eimai 2os kai tha apefauga na epaiza me ton chip leader

[mathew ace]

An exei F-draw to bet sizing sto flop den exei simasia. Epomenws stamatiste na to anaferete , afou any 70-80< % Pot Bet o CHIP Leader tha to callare.

Turn Check/Call and ReEvaluate River.

[LiNkK]

Nai alla me toso mikro bet den mporeis na katalaveis an odws exei fd h an kanei float.

[vassilis21]

mathew ace έγραψε:

An exei F-draw to bet sizing sto flop den exei simasia. Epomenws stamatiste na to anaferete , afou any 70-80< % Pot Bet o CHIP Leader tha to callare.

Turn Check/Call and ReEvaluate River.

sumfono den upirxe periptosi na pigaine paso to flushdraw o sugkekrimenos paiktis. apla me pio megalo bet apo mena tha epaize all inn mipos katsei to flush. pontara liga sto flop giati ton ithela eite na callarei eite na kanei reraise afou eixa set . an agoraze spathi tou edina mono 20% (1 fullo gia spathi) meta tha pontara 3/4 pot gia na min exei odds gia flush pou tha itan oute 20% na to petuxei. Dustuxos tern 3 spathi kai ekei eprepe na apofasiso check call kratontas xamila to pot kai agorazontas full an ekane flush i na pontarw peripou 50% pot gia na min exei ta odds (me molis peripou 18 % na kanei flush tha ton exanagkaza se lathos call an agoraze spathi) na vrei spathi an eixe 1 spathi sta fulla tou. telika apofasisa na pontarw 1/2 pot na prostatefso to fulo mou apo 4 spathi. Dustuxos ekane all inn. H aporia mou einai ti kanoume se tetoies periptwseis....otan exei simasia i 2 kai 3 thesi.

Htan deep stack 171 atoma stin pokerstars $22 buy inn alla mporouse na itan 100 i 500 analoga me to bankroll tou kathena.simasia exei pos energeis ekei. call kai gazi gia prwti thesi i paso kai o agonas sunexizetai me upomoni?

Hlie i gnomi sou metraei logo tis empeirias sou se tetoies katastaseis. an exeis tin kalosuni pes ti gnomi sou.

[Toympas]

Me polly mikroterh emperia apo polla paidia edw mesa nomizw pws to flop bet einai mikro giati dinei odds gia call me any two kai to check call sto turn epivevlimmeno gia pot control .Twra sto real hand mallon fold analoga me thn eikona tou leader kai to prosdokomeno kerdos (xerontas to buy in vevaia tou tour)

[kasspav]

Αν ήταν lead bet στο φλοπ, θα μου άρεσε, αλλά επειδή ήταν cbet επρεπε να ήταν της ταξεως 50% ποτ imo.

Στο turn μου εγώ θα checkara...πολύ απλά διότι ενας ικανός παίχτης θα σου το γυρίσει ανετα με καθαρή μπλόφα...represent flush σε κεινο το σημείο το εχω κανει απειρες φορες...

Χωρις να ξερω τον παιχτη, δεν μπορω να σου απαντησω τι θα εκανα...τεινω στο call.

[vassilis21]

gia tin istoria o aggressive chip leader se afto to hand kratouse 2c4c kai omws ekane call 32000 reraise pre flop!!!