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FullTiltPoker Game #18887701728: $42,000 Guarantee (143211036), Table 163 - 8,000/16,000 Ante 2,000 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:52:29 ET - 2010/03/01

Seat 1: dounedin (579,594)

Seat 2: co-Bor (352,082)

Seat 3: acesfool97 (305,325)

Seat 5: Pizzicato_Xev (428,755)

Seat 6: Kariboo86 (210,805)

Seat 7: Al Force (378,886)

Seat 8: lufcyuss (986,318)

Seat 9: Julaw (163,296)

dounedin antes 2,000

co-Bor antes 2,000

acesfool97 antes 2,000

Pizzicato_Xev antes 2,000

Kariboo86 antes 2,000

Al Force antes 2,000

lufcyuss antes 2,000

Julaw antes 2,000

Kariboo86 posts the small blind of 8,000

Al Force posts the big blind of 16,000

The button is in seat #5

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to dounedin [Jd Ac]

lufcyuss folds

Julaw folds

dounedin raises to 48,000

co-Bor folds

acesfool97 folds

Pizzicato_Xev folds

Kariboo86 folds

Al Force calls 32,000

*** FLOP *** [7h 2s 6s]

Al Force checks

dounedin checks

*** TURN *** [7h 2s 6s] [Jc]

Al Force bets 32,000

dounedin raises to 104,000

Al Force has 15 seconds left to act

Al Force raises to 328,886, and is all in

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o al force einai extreme loose aggressive paikths .sta teleytaia 10 hands exei kanei toylaxiston 6 preflop raise.egw diathrw mia sxetika aggro eikona sto trapezi afou sta teleytaia hands exw kanei arketa raise preflop me cbet sto flop.

se afth thn fash ti kanoume ?

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katarxin as skeftoume ti mborei na exei o antipalos. As einai loose..Mborei na exei QQ,AA,KK?...arketa apithano logw mi reraise preflop..Episis 99% twn periptwsewn tha pontare flop..Ara pame parakatw..AK den exei logw mi raise preflop...kai na exei ton exoume.. A-Q ekseretika apithano , na kanei 5-bet all in...JJ kai afto aporriptetai afou oxi mono einai diskolo, na exei tous allous 2 ...alla den ekane bet sto flop.Pame sta set twra...7-7, 2-2 , 6-6...Einai mesa stis dektes pithanotites.Alla pithana einai , J-9--->J-A me to J-9 mallon apithano.

Afta oson afora ta hands..Otidipote allo einai move..kai eisai in front. T xeria pou se nikoun einai AA,KK,QQ,JJ,(1) 77,22,66 (2) ,J2,J6,J7 (3)

Oi periptwseis (1) apokleiontai se ena megalo pososto,oxi entelws profanws , logw tou preflop action alla kai tou flop action. (flat call pre- check on the flop.)

Oi periptwseis (2) einai arketa pithanes.

Oi periptwseis (3) einai arketa apithanes....Kai edw tha stathw se 2 vasikotates plirofories pou den paretheses:

1.Buy in ...?

2. Stats tou pekti sta MTT tours Kai Sitngo OVERALL . (all data ) ...ROI.

Egw proswpika to hand tha to epeza call sto turn-bet, kai call-river bet (an ipirxe) xwris reraise.Distixws evales ton eafto sou se tough spot..Den exeis set, Top pair exeis..To 3-bet sou (104k) dilwnei oti callareis all in..o Typos mono 32k sou bettare..Se pot twn 90k kai vale. dld, ti to skotwneis to hand..ti tou kaneis afto to enormous reraise afou den tha ksereis ti na kaneis ama sta gyrisei.Epimenw sto call, kai se river bet, call.

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to aplo call sto turn bet to vlepw poli adynamo play.exalloy exei kai fdraw+strdraw!

to tour einai 24+2$ kai sthn parousa fasi(17 emeinan) to epathlo einai 191.3$o epomenos pairnei 256$ me thn eisodo sto final table 680$ kai o prwtos 11000$.prothesh mas einai to fysika to ft.to bet sto urn einai 32000 se 120000 pot!25%peripou poli weak poy gia mena shmaiei oti psaxnei na dei poy brisketai .dyo hands prin einai sto button kai exoume thn eksis partida .limp o utg, raise 2,5bb utg+1(egw AKs),reraise apo middle x4 (ena stack konta sta 350000)kai o typas apo button kanei allin 160000 chips me 33!!den xreiazesai oute roi oute mtt s oute tipota.to palikari einai despert kai mallon nystazei .anyway diplasiazei afou espase kk. apoklieis twra ta exeis xeria :

8s 9s,As xs,Js Xs(K Q 10 9),?

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kotopoulas έγραψε:

to aplo call sto turn bet to vlepw poli adynamo play.exalloy exei kai fdraw+strdraw!

to tour einai 24+2$ kai sthn parousa fasi(17 emeinan) to epathlo einai 191.3$o epomenos pairnei 256$ me thn eisodo sto final table 680$ kai o prwtos 11000$.prothesh mas einai to fysika to ft.to bet sto urn einai 32000 se 120000 pot!25%peripou poli weak poy gia mena shmaiei oti psaxnei na dei poy brisketai .dyo hands prin einai sto button kai exoume thn eksis partida .limp o utg, raise 2,5bb utg+1(egw AKs),reraise apo middle x4 (ena stack konta sta 350000)kai o typas apo button kanei allin 160000 chips me 33!!den xreiazesai oute roi oute mtt s oute tipota.to palikari einai despert kai mallon nystazei .anyway diplasiazei afou espase kk. apoklieis twra ta exeis xeria :

8s 9s,As xs,Js Xs(K Q 10 9),?

e signwmi re file, an to palikari einai ilithios mborei na exei any two!..ti na leme twra..Afou paizei na exei any two prosexeis kai kratas xamila to pot me afta ta atoma ektos an exeis nuts. Etsi paei.!

Small Ball .

ti tou kaneis to reraise afou mborei na exei any two dld?.Ti katalaves twra pou se karfwse kai emeines me to stoma anoikto kai vlepeis tin othoni?. call sto bet, , kai pali call sto river, eksartwmeno ap to bet..xalarwse, top pair exeis, oxi ta mousia tou theou.

Episis filaraki to mikro bet, giati na min to ekane thelontas reraise?..gia skepsou kai afto...

Kai panda ..PANDA KOITAS STATS. afta apo mena..elpizw na se voithisa.

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kotopoulas έγραψε:

dld thes na mou peis oti an o typos eixe flush draw h kai oxi ,me top pair kai xeirotero kicker apo mena na tou dwsw toso fteina to river me skopo na bgei ena akoma mpastouni me to opoio na kanei ena dynato bet kai na petaxw to kalytero fyllo?

to thema einai oti exeis karfwsei mesa sto myalo sou oti exei flush i straight draw file..Kai pali..ap ti stigmi pou einai maniac o tipos pisteveis oti tha petaksei to draw tou me to reraise sou????????/??????

To stadio tou tour einai epikindino kai simantiko..Egw apo tin plevra mou tha to epeza ek tou asfalous to sygkekrimeno hand...ande na exana 120k me afto pou sou eipa na kaneis...AN exana...tha protimousa kalytero spot gia na valw 368,000 apo to stack mou mesa..Afto thelw na sou pw tosi wra....An fas to bad beat den peirazei...Afou einai maniac, tha akolouthisei logika kai me to reraise sou..afto kathista atopo to 3 bet sou, me ena easily breakable hand..antilambanesai ti enoow..?

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a kai oson afora ta J- 9+ SUITED, profanws einai pithanotita..Kai erxomai kai erwtw : Aftos o tipos, o maniac, Tha paei paso sto reraise sou, me top epafi, kai flush draw?...

Profanws oxi..

Tha se valei all in.

Ara kratas xamila to pot..to river bet tou an exei flush, i 2 pair , tha einai kserw gw 100k?.. an kaneis call kai xaseis, tote exeis xasei 200k....OXI 368 !!!!

Nomizw exw ginei katanoitos..

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symfwnw 100% mazi soy .apla me to paiximo moy afto poy thelw na soy pw einai oti thelw na to valw na kanei lathos kai xerv oti se ayth thn periptwsh o syggekrimenos tha to kanei .oso perissotera lathoi kanei toso perissotero kerdismenos vgenw egw.an twra valei olo to stack tou me high pair flush draw sto turn nai eimai prothymos na ton akolouthhsw.

otan exei 13/43 outs peripou 30%-70%.sigoyra to shmeio einai poli krisimo kai o tropos poy proteineis o pio safe se periptwsh poy exei setarei.

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ok ara simfwnoume. Esy apla theleis na pareis to max value. Kai eisai prothymos na to riskareis. To dexomai , to sevomai. mia xara. Katalaves ti ithela na sou pw. Oti eite kanoume reraise eite oxi , o tipos tha dei river..epomenws na proseksoume ligo..Eksartatai kai apo tin idiosygkrasia kathe atomou afto profanws..Ti ekanes telika?..profanws call etsi?

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