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holdemgr έγραψε:

crackLiNg έγραψε:
den katalavenw se blank turn an shovareis k fas autocall me KJ pio to nohma toy na xaseis 1 BI gt itheles na klepseis blinds me j7o..

Nai den eimai toso sigouros gia to turn alla KJ exei sxedon pote. iiisws KhJh pou pali den kanei poly sense[/quote:1kbyr57j]

ok , sta kanei 52 k toy ta kaneis 104.

Tha simfwnisoyme 1000% oti to bet soy den dixnei oti kinigas flush.

An einai nuts jerei oti an kanei aplo call se blank turn tha kaneis poly dinato bet opote se gyrnaei sto turn.

Apo tin alli an exeis set k se girisei me nuts sto flop ta lefta benoyn mia i alli mono poy ta vazeis me 30% oxi me 15% poy tha ta valeis sto turn (an exeis setarei gt to bet soy ayto dixnei).

opote giati na min kanei just call me nuts?

den soy lew oti i pithanotites klinoyn sto na einai nuts , alla iparxei mia pithanotita k se sindiasmo me to oti einai parapoly asximo spot gia na xaseis BI pisteuw oti den axizei kan na vareseis continuation bet se ayto to flop , apo tin stigmi poy to deis perneis apofasi oti paei se allon. :)

filika

tora poy xanaeida to board exe ipopsi soy oti oyte Ah 10h , Ah Jh petaei eykola se blank turn...

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crackLiNg έγραψε:

Apo tin alli an exeis set k se girisei me nuts sto flop ta lefta benoyn mia i alli mono poy ta vazeis me 30% oxi me 15% poy tha ta valeis sto turn (an exeis setarei gt to bet soy ayto dixnei).

opote giati na min kanei just call me nuts?

Apla de nomizw enas kalos reg me KJs oti tha kanei check-small raise - flat se tetoio flop me skopo na kanei check sto turn.

Tha prepei na skeftei oti yparxoun tosa turn cards pou eite tha beltiwsoun to range mou eite tha einai scary gia to range mou kai tha kanw check behind enw to flop line tou einai tetoio pou tha kanw pali check behind me ta pio weak hands mou px AQ h AhJh akoma kai TT.

Epishs mia diorthwsh, me set exw 10 outs sto turn, 22%

pisteuw oti den axizei kan na vareseis continuation bet se ayto to flop , apo tin stigmi poy to deis perneis apofasi oti paei se allon. :)

Nai to flop cbet den einai kai super EV spot alla nomizw oti einai EV>0 oriaka isws eidika giati mallon tha xreiastei kai 2nd barrel syxna... (oxi an kanei call to fish bebaia lol)

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Thes na mas peis ti hand tha kaneis represent me ena shove se blank sto turn ?

Opws eipan kai oi alloi an kanei lead bet sto turn to fold equity einai poli close kai me to miniraise pou ekane sto flop de pistevw oti ena blank turn tha boithouse esena perisotero apo oti auton.

An paei gia leverage logika tha foldarei sto raise sou sto flop kai pio spania tha kanei call , kanontas c/f sto turn , eidika se shove.

lvl 2 to play pou thes na kaneis kai imo to BB foldarei se shove pio spania apo oti tha kanei call an kanei call sto flop kai lead bet sto turn.

Sigoura thes kalo read edw alliws isws petas leuta sto dromo ..

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To kentriko shmeio tou hand einai sto flop. Otan kanw raise perimenw h na kanei fold h na kanei shove. Perimenw na kanei call ena poly mikro % fores pou den exei idiaiterh shmasia.

Par'ol'ayta kai gia xarh ths syzhthshs alla kai san meros tou planning sth diarkeia tou paixnidiou exetazw kai thn periptwsh pou tha kanei call sto flop kai tha pame se turn.

H periptwsh na kanei lead bet ekei de m'apasxolhse idiatera giati pistevw oti tha to kanei ena poly-poly mikro y% fores Ypothetw oti einai easy fold ektos an kanei kapoio mikro bet opote tha kanw mallon float (eipame FPS) analoga kai me ta fylla klp

Gi ayto kai asxoloumai mono me thn ypoperitwsh (varianta xaxaxa) na kanei call sto flop kai check sto turn

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Χωρίς να συνεισφέρω στην ανάλυση, δεν θα υπολόγιζα στα συν του shove το metagame καθώς ήδη είσαι lag. Ναι, δεν έχεις δείξει κάτι ακραίο όπως λες, αλλά το metagame value από ένα shove εδώ δεν είμαι σίγουρος ότι είναι αρκετό.

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safesteps έγραψε:

Χωρίς να συνεισφέρω στην ανάλυση, δεν θα υπολόγιζα στα συν του shove το metagame καθώς ήδη είσαι lag. Ναι, δεν έχεις δείξει κάτι ακραίο όπως λες, αλλά το metagame value από ένα shove εδώ δεν είμαι σίγουρος ότι είναι αρκετό.

+1 Den prokeitai pote na kanw shove gia metagame

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